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John Grisham issues public apology for child porn comments

Posted on 10/16/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted by DakForHe15man
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 2:52 pm
LINK

He has lost a lot of fans over those comments. What do you think about it?
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 3:12 pm
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 2:54 pm to
Your link just goes to the latimes page...FYI
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 2:54 pm to
why did you link latimes.com? I'm not finding your article for you
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 2:57 pm to
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they got online one night, started surfing around, probably had too much to drink whatever and pushed the wrong buttons, and went too far and went into child porn or whatever.


So easy to do...
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 2:57 pm to
"We have prisons now filled with guys my age. Sixty-year-old white men in prison who've never harmed anybody, would never touch a child." He continued, "But they got online one night and started surfing around, probably had too much to drink or whatever, and pushed the wrong buttons, went too far and got into child porn."

Grisham went on to explain what happened to an old classmate:

"His drinking was out of control, and he went to a website. It was labeled '16-year-old wannabe hookers or something like that.' And it said '16-year-old girls.' So he went there. Downloaded some stuff -- it was 16-year-old girls who looked 30."

He continued, "He shouldn't have done it. It was stupid, but it wasn't 10-year-old boys. He didn't touch anything. And God, a week later there was a knock on the door: ‘FBI!’ and it was sting set up by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police to catch people -- sex offenders -- and he went to prison for three years."

Grisham went on, "There's so many of them now. There's so many 'sex offenders' -- that's what they're called -- that they put them in the same prison. Like they're a bunch of perverts, or something; thousands of ’em. We've gone nuts with this incarceration."

The Daily Telegraph writes, "Asked about the argument that viewing child pornography fueled the industry of abuse needed to create the pictures, Mr. Grisham said that current sentencing policies failed to draw a distinction between real-world abusers and those who downloaded content, accidentally or otherwise."

Grisham responded, "I have no sympathy for real paedophiles,” he said, "God, please lock those people up. But so many of these guys do not deserve harsh prison sentences, and that's what they're getting."
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9327 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 2:58 pm to
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The description of "white men in prison who've never harmed anybody" is problematic on its own -- particularly in the wake of Ferguson, Mo., where 18-year-old Michael Brown, an unarmed African American man, was shot and killed by police. Grisham's racially-loaded statement raises questions of what constitutes harmlessness, and how race is a factor.




Race bait much..
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11309 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:00 pm to
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And there is so many of them now. There is so many sex offenders – is what they are called – that they put them in the same prison. Like they are a bunch of perverts or something.


Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:01 pm to
Ole Miss folks will be Ole Miss folks....

I thought him smarter.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:04 pm to
He should've kept his mouth shut and those quotes are insane, but they leave out a lot. His friend according to him was drunk one night and solicited a 16-year old girl. He said it was wrong and he should be punished, but I think he was just saying that they don't belong in the same category as prepubescent boy rapists. Which I agree with. All pedophiles are lumped together but the fact is a 16-year-old female is sexually mature. A normal straight grown man can feel attraction. And in many states, it's perfectly legal to act on that attraction. Is it sleazy and creepy? Absolutely. But it's nothing like the mental depravity and pure evil of a Sandusky.


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This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 3:06 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

He should've kept his mouth shut and those quotes are insane, but they leave out a lot. His friend according to him was drunk one night and solicited a 16-year old girl. He said it was wrong and he should be punished, but I think he was just saying that they don't belong in the same category as prepubescent boy rapists. Which I agree with. All pedophiles are lumped together but the fact is a 16-year-old female is sexually mature. A normal straight grown man can feel attraction. And in many states, it's perfectly legal to act on that attraction. Is it sleazy and creepy? Absolutely. But it's nothing like the mental depravity and pure evil of a Sandusky.


So much truth...
Posted by DakForHe15man
Member since Sep 2014
1519 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:17 pm to
I think I fixed the link to the article.

I kind of understand what he is saying. If a man is tipsy & decides to click of some porn of girls under 18 he doesn't deserve years in prison. I think the police should go to their house & confront them & tell them the seriousness of it & then watch his Internet closely & if he does it again maybe a year to 2 years in jail. people who just click on it once when they're tipsy don't deserve to go to prison for 10 years. I have to kind of agree with Grisham there.
Posted by DakForHe15man
Member since Sep 2014
1519 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:17 pm to
I think I fixed the link to the article.

I kind of understand what he is saying. If a man is tipsy & decides to click of some porn of girls under 18 he doesn't deserve years in prison. I think the police should go to their house & confront them & tell them the seriousness of it & then watch his Internet closely & if he does it again maybe a year to 2 years in jail. people who just click on it once when they're tipsy don't deserve to go to prison for 10 years. I have to kind of agree with Grisham there.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:19 pm to
Agree, there is a valid distinction between dirtbags flirting with the legal limits, and truly demented people who are aroused by things that are childlike.

I am not interested in advocating for the dirtbags, but I do think it's a dumb societal mechanism where we just assume we can't distinguish. The protecting children community, for whatever reason, thinks it harms children protection efforts to acknowledge that a guy who pursues a 16 year old is different from a guy who likes 8 year olds. That, to me, is bizarre, but that is what happens when you deal with these groups with a total lobbying mindset.

Another example: Go on TV and mention that too drunk for consent college rape is different from forcible knifepoint rape. You'll be excoriated and made out to be worse than a rapist.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28088 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:21 pm to
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I thought him smarter.


As did I.

He's dumb, but evidently not as dumb as his effed up friend.

"Oh, I was drunk. That's why I wanted to bang an underage girl."
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15221 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:22 pm to
Wasn't that Pete Townshend's excuse? Worked for him.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98490 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:22 pm to
Of course, for the longest time, girls could marry at 15 (and quite often did).
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28088 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:23 pm to
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If a man is tipsy


Good grief, did he have too many Fuzzy Navels?
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:23 pm to
Any link to his original comments would be great, thanks.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28088 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:25 pm to
And our life expectancy was 50.

Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:30 pm to
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"Oh, I was drunk. That's why I wanted to bang an underage girl."
In these places:

Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia


That's not a crime. You can get drunk and bang 16-year-olds.


But in California it is. Weird huh?
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 3:37 pm
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