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re: Joe Rogan podcast -- Bob Lazar guest just dropped (former Area 51 scientist)
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:20 am to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:20 am to tiggerthetooth
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If you read the link I posted earlier in this thread it basically explains that his continued lying is what keeps him free.
What was the post? Was it the one saying he was telling his friends about secret weapons development and they made him start talking UAP’s to discredit himself? Either way they would not have “allowed” him to live after leaking anything of importance.
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:14 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Was it the one saying he was telling his friends about secret weapons development and they made him start talking UAP’s to discredit himself? Either way they would not have “allowed” him to live after leaking anything of importance.
Something like that. He had friends interested in UFOs and he knew something was going on (with weapons testing or proton beams) because he was hired on out there.
It looked like UFOs. So, he was young and stupid and snuck his friends out there and got busted. But, he never told them what it really was so he just kept the lie going so he wouldn't go to prison.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 5:01 pm to Jim Rockford
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Investigative jounalist and author Annie Jacobsen says Lazar is credible LINK
Why did he lie that he had a phd or masters or bachelor's or maybe took a class or maybe not from MIT?
Posted on 6/27/19 at 5:03 pm to mailman
They scrubbed his educational records.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 5:14 pm to Jim Rockford
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They scrubbed his educational records.
This is laughable. He had zero proof he went there except a friend dropped him off at a library once. You mean to tell me he doesn't have one scrap of paper from his time there?
His only comment on the documentary was "if you want to focus on that then do it but I am telling you about aliens and ufos and you should focus on that"
Posted on 6/27/19 at 5:21 pm to Jim Rockford
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Investigative jounalist and author Annie Jacobsen says Lazar is credible
Sounds like she says he is credible but was fed a bunch of lies and misinformation to obscure what is going on out there.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:24 pm to Jim Rockford
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They scrubbed his educational records.
He would show up in a year book or at least have classmates who could identify him. He was asked the question at a speech and didn't even know the year he graduated. First he said phd, then he changed it to masters. He would have to be known by so many people yet no one can vouch for him. He actually had friends who went to MIT and sat in a few classes with them. That's the closest he ever got to that school. You guys are gullible af.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:29 pm to mailman
I nominate neil Tyson degrasse to talk to him for 5 minutes to prove that he knows nothing about physics or calculus. Bet he says, oh gosh my darn migraines or they erased my memory
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:45 pm to Jack Ruby
I'm on Netflix now. So where did he go to college? Why didn't he show his degrees? And why don't we have some of those antigravity spaceships now to carry us around?
I don't like the show obviously.
I don't like the show obviously.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:46 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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I'm on Netflix now. So where did he go to college? Why didn't he show his degrees?
Great question you mean to tell me he doesn’t have a diploma, transcripts, registration status, anything from anywhere?
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:55 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Great question you mean to tell me he doesn’t have a diploma, transcripts, registration status, anything from anywhere?
No
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:06 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
No yearbook, text books, notes, graduation program, pictures with classmates.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:16 pm to lsu13lsu
Think of all the group projects you would have in college, people who know you
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:20 pm to lsu13lsu
Deep cover.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:20 pm to mailman
Didn’t name teachers, classes nothing.
I think the guy was paid by the CIA to spread BS to cover up what was going on out there and allow them to grab more land.
If he really worked there then spread their secrets he would be under the jail or dead.
I think the guy was paid by the CIA to spread BS to cover up what was going on out there and allow them to grab more land.
If he really worked there then spread their secrets he would be under the jail or dead.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:22 pm to Jim Rockford
Lol. I want all this to be true as much or more than anyone but Lazar just doesn’t add up.
Not to mention that now that we have technology to pick up gravity waves we would know if Anti-Gravity ships were around.
Not to mention that now that we have technology to pick up gravity waves we would know if Anti-Gravity ships were around.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:52 am to Jack Ruby
I think Bob Lazar is doing what he says secret agencies do, give you real information with nonsense thrown in with it. I'm sure he worked where he said he worked, I believe he took courses at caltech and MIT but don't think he graduated from either.
I doubt he's being paid by any government agency to give misinformation but likely was forced into it. And his situation was probably just out of opportunity if that's the case. His story will definitely make anyone who worked at S4 think twice about coming forward with any research going on there.
It's interesting to listen to though.
I doubt he's being paid by any government agency to give misinformation but likely was forced into it. And his situation was probably just out of opportunity if that's the case. His story will definitely make anyone who worked at S4 think twice about coming forward with any research going on there.
It's interesting to listen to though.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:03 pm to Jack Ruby
The article mentions how the chief investigator into the technology has an eerily absent web presence...
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28729/docs-show-navy-got-ufo-patent-granted-by-warning-of-similar-chinese-tech-advances
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28729/docs-show-navy-got-ufo-patent-granted-by-warning-of-similar-chinese-tech-advances
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Docs Show Navy Got 'UFO' Patent Granted By Warning Of Similar Chinese Tech
Advances Patent documents indicate that the U.S. and China are actively developing radical new craft that seem eerily similar to UFOs reported by Navy pilots.
BY BRETT TINGLEY AND TYLER ROGOWAYJUNE 28, 2019
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The United States Secretary of Navy is listed as the assignee on several radical aviation technologies patented by an aerospace engineer working at the Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division (NAWCAD) headquarters in Patuxent River, Maryland. One of these patents describes a "hybrid aerospace-underwater craft" claimed to be capable of truly extraordinary feats of speed and maneuverability in air, water, and outer space alike thanks to a revolutionary electromagnetic propulsion system.
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The Navy’s Patented Hybrid Underwater Aerospace Craft
Pais is named as the inventor on four separate patents for which the U.S. Navy is the assignee: a curiously-shaped “High Frequency Gravitational Wave Generator;” a room temperature superconductor; an electromagnetic ‘force field’ generator that could deflect asteroids; and, perhaps the strangest of all, one titled “Craft Using An Inertial Mass Reduction Device.” While all are pretty outlandish-sounding, the latter is the one that the Chief Technical Officer of the Naval Aviation Enterprise personally vouched for in a letter to the USPTO, claiming the Chinese are already developing similar capabilities.
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The hybrid aerospace-underwater craft in Pais’ patent, meanwhile, is described as being capable of incredible feats of speed and maneuverability and can fly equally well in air, water, or space without leaving a heat signature. This is possible, Pais claims in the patent, because the craft is able to “engineer the fabric of our reality at the most fundamental level” by exploiting the laws of physics.
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In his most recent publication, Pais describes the hybrid aerospace underwater craft as a roughly cone-shaped vehicle that would appear round from the front or rear: “the HAUC is conical in configuration, with an elliptical cross-section, similar in geometry to a hypersonic glide vehicle / dart.” Interestingly enough, the descriptions of the craft in several of Pais’ publications and even the patent for “Craft using an inertial mass reduction device” include room for a crew compartment shielded by a Faraday cage. Shortly after the patent for the hybrid craft was approved in 2018, Pais presented another related paper, “Room Temperature Superconducting System for Use on a Hybrid Aerospace Undersea Craft” at the 2019 American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics SciTech Forum in San Diego this past January. In the paper, Pais writes that "the achievement of room temperature superconductivity (RTSC) represents a highly disruptive technology, capable of a total paradigm change in Science and Technology,” and adds that its “military and commercial value is considerable."
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The capabilities described in the paper should certainly sound familiar to anyone who's been following the Navy UFO stories over the last several years:
It is possible to envision hybrid aerospace-undersea craft (HAUC), which can function as a submersible craft capable of extreme underwater speeds (lack of water-skin friction) and enhanced aerial/underwater stealth capabilities (non-linear scattering of RF and sonar signals). This hybrid craft would move with great ease through the air/space/water mediums, by being enclosed in a Vacuum/plasma bubble/sheath, due to the coupled effects of EM field-induced air/water particles repulsion and Vacuum energy polarization.
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That being said, the unorthodox circumstances surrounding the approval of this patent have us wondering why the Chief Technology Officer of the U.S. Naval Aviation Enterprise, Dr. James Sheehy, personally vouched for the legitimacy of this beyond-revolutionary aerospace technology in the Navy’s appeal to the USPTO. Sheehy assured the patent examiner in charge of this application that the aircraft propulsion method described in the patent is indeed possible or will be soon based on experiments and tests NAWCAD has already conducted. While plenty of commenters online have seen the patents and claimed that any old crackpot scientist can attempt to patent crazy-sounding technologies far beyond what is currently technologically feasible, I would hesitate to call the CTO of the Naval Aviation Enterprise working on behalf of the Federal Government a crackpot. Then again, it's not impossible.
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In a press release marking the official launch of TTSA on Oct. 11, 2017, former Program Director for Advanced Systems at Lockheed Martin Advanced Development Programs at the Skunk Works, Steve Justice, described how TTSA was working on developing revolutionary "Advanced Electromagnetic Vehicles" that will "dramatically reduce the current travel limits of distance and time" and "mimic the capabilities observed in unidentified aerial phenomenon by employing a drive system that alters the space-time metric." Without a doubt, these advanced electromagnetic vehicles that TTSA says it plans to develop sound uncannily like the electromagnetic hybrid aerospace underwater craft in Pais's patent.
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Also, consider the fact that Senators, including the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Community, have been briefed in recent weeks by Navy officials about the unexplained sightings Navy pilots have reported. Even President Donald Trump recently stated in an interview that the Navy UFO reports could be due the fact that pilots "see things a little bit different from the past," a comment which could be taken to mean that pilots are witnessing new types of aerospace technology for the first time. Trump seemed to indicate that he does not believe the objects reported by Navy pilots are evidence of anything extraterrestrial and took his interviewer’s UFO question in stride without any apparent surprise, an indication of just how far into the mainstream the UFO discussion has become.
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Furthermore, Pais notes in the paper that such a technology “would permit swift movement of the HAUC beyond our Solar System.” Is this an undisclosed reason why we suddenly need a Space Force? Is this what Air Force Lieutenant General Vera Linn Jamieson was referring to last year when she casually dropped during an unrelated interview that in "different galaxies in the future we’re going to actually have capability that we have right now in the air”? And this is hardly the only highly peculiar thing that Air Force leadership has spouted off about in regards to the future of America's military footprint in space.
Posted on 6/28/19 at 11:15 pm to Jack Ruby
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15 minutes into a 2 HR podcast and it's as fascinating as anything you'll hear
Thanks for posting
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