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re: Jeffrey Dahmer & Social Issues (Police, Racism, Etc.)

Posted on 10/6/22 at 4:32 am to
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 4:32 am to
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Now that they’ve defunded the police no telling how many Dahmers are getting off right now.


Amazing all the angles that people manage to cram into a bio-series.

I'm glad I can just watch a show and enjoy it for the production and acting and not have to dissect it 14 ways to find things to be outraged about.
Posted by 1hoppydude
Member since May 2021
45 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:03 am to
Just finished this. Don't know if this was true or not but when the frat white boy pressed charges on the black daughter for breaking his camera she was arrested immediately.
Posted by Upshift Downshift
Red Stick
Member since Feb 2022
381 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 6:33 am to
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I don't think it's much of a logic leap to think that the man that almost exclusively murdered gay black men was a racist homophobe at heart.


Lmao. To reddit-tier Netflix viewers what drove Dahmer to kill was, at heart, his racism and homophobia. What a brave new world we live in.
Posted by SOLA
There
Member since Mar 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 7:08 am to
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Don't know if this was true or not

Probably wasn’t
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120110 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 7:23 am to
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Should the police be blamed for what happened? Not wanting to get between Dahmer and his 'boyfriend' when he said he was just drunk and they let him lead the kid back into the apartment?


If that kid looked underage, as it appeared so on the show, the cops should have most definitely checked to make sure instead of assuming. They were being told two sides and they took Dahmer's word for it. If they would have just followed up, they would have saved him and several other people.

Every event usually gets put into the spin cycle, but Dahmer was a fricking monster.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13162 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 7:31 am to
Jesse Jackson was vocal about Dahmer in real life and went to Milwaukee. Why wouldn’t they include that in the show?

The events of the show are a bit exaggerated but that dude should have been caught earlier.

I don’t get why people insist on including prejudice where it isn’t, nor do I get why people insist on denying its existence.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 7:36 am to
I thought the show portrayed what actually happened as well as you could possibly expect Netflix to do in the current year.

They portrayed something happened and everyone wanted it to be about racism, but that in reality it was more complicated and probably didn’t have much of anything to do with racism as far as Dahmer was concerned.

They made the cops look worse than they actually were, and that sucked. I guess I’m probably so desensitized to faux outrage that I found myself somewhat refreshed that the show didn’t portray things much worse.
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 7:38 am
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42104 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 7:39 am to
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The whole Glenda Cleveland thing or whatever her name is, was fake. She didn't even live in the same building as him.


Really?
Posted by Gabapentin
Member since Mar 2022
374 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 7:41 am to
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Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120110 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 7:43 am to
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They made the cops look worse than they actually were, and that sucked.



Well.. They are taking a late 80s, early 90s mindset of police and presenting it to an audience in 2022. Its going to look bad.

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I thought the show portrayed what actually happened as well as you could possibly ask Netflix to do in the current year.


I agree with this 100%.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31792 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:54 pm to
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most likely didn’t wind up in one of Dahmer’s sandwiches.


Mmmm, a good gay black man sandwich. A delicacy.

This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85841 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:23 pm to
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I never said anything about Dahmer being racist. I said the police not wanting to involve themselves in domestic disputes between gay men, much less ones involving gay black men, allowed Dahmer to get away with his actions for longer than he would have otherwise.



And not wanting to hurt gay mens feelings led to death and the spread of aids.

And black men not wanting to come out to their very homophobic community is why Aids is still more of a problem with blacks in america compared to others.

Everyone is racist.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85841 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:26 pm to
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I don’t get why people insist on including prejudice where it isn’t, nor do I get why people insist on denying its existence.



because prejudice is very different than racism. Everyone prejudges most situations they have ever been in and prejudges people.

Here is an example, people assume serial killers are white, so when a black man was killing women in Baton Rouge they completely ignored him and were looking for white dudes, even though the cops had the actual killer in custody multiple times. That's prejudice that cost multiple women their lives.


This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 1:30 pm
Posted by PikesPeak
The Penalty Box
Member since Apr 2022
945 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:28 pm to
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Should the police be blamed for what happened? Not wanting to get between Dahmer and his 'boyfriend' when he said he was just drunk and they let him lead the kid back into the apartment?

Yes. They did not bother to verify the underage male's identity, they did not bother to render medical assistance, and they lazily led a young boy back into the apartment of a convicted sex offender to be murdered. They should absolutely share a chunk of blame for that.

The location of the murder house was also in a part of town where crackhouses were quite prominent. They did not bother to check in on multiple calls from other residents detailing foul odors and weird shite going on because, well, it was in a shitty part of town and "these things happen".

frick those guys. And frick that judge for ordering backpay, too.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53956 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:46 pm to
The way they portrayed him was pretty bad
They acted like he was a good ole dude sipping bruskis

To get away with it for as long as he did was pretty remarkable but the show made it seem like it was an easy serial killer to solve

Was some of it racist since most victims were black and gay? or was it just terrible police work if clues and witness accounts were truly ignored? Who knows.

The gay community at that time was basically underground and not out in the open so maybe you did have some witnesses that knew things that never came forward to protect themselves
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 10:46 am
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4057 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:52 pm to
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You ought to know that those who produce media for our consumption will take any avenue possible to blame whitey.


Yep, if the story doesn't negatively portray white people in some way, we won't see it.
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 11:47 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18851 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 2:24 pm to
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It had nothing to do with racism or who he killed it had everything to do with him becoming a Christian and saved. He felt that Dahmer should not be given that chance to be in heaven. But you missed that or just won’t admit it





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It is believed that Scarver murdered Dahmer and Anderson, who were both white, because of Dahmer's murders of black males and because Anderson had stabbed his wife to death and attempted to frame two black males as the perpetrators of the attack. Scarver was quoted as having said, "nothing white people do to blacks is just."[1]
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 10/27/22 at 2:36 pm to
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ETA: He was murdered in prison by a black man, there's some racism


Jeffrey Dahmer’s killer explains why he did it.

Video is just 44 seconds for those with ADD.
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