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re: Jeff Landry states that made-up gender pronouns do not exist in Louisiana

Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:56 am to
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:56 am to
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Yeah, the government doesn’t get a hall pass to infringe upon constitutional rights just because someone is under a probationary period at their government job.
They won't specifically say they're firing because of the misgendering (which would absolutely open up to lawsuit) but that he was let go due to performance.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:56 am to
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Why not allow them some sense of comfort for their mental illness when it costs us nothing?


Because history is riff with trauma and chaos when societies ignore fundamental truth in favor of comfort or perception.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:57 am to
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Exactly. It's extremely easy to act professional at your job regardless of your personal/political opinions.


you’re such a pussy.
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:58 am to
I support him on this.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:58 am to
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They won't specifically say they're firing because of the misgendering (which would absolutely open up to lawsuit) but that he was let go due to performance.


That’s a cute argument but if they don’t have heavily documented instances prior to this occasion, it won’t hold mustard.
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:59 am to
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How many people have received discipline or been fired for "misgendering?" If the answer isn't zero, you are literally wrong.
Please provide proof otherwise. If someone is fired SOLELY for misgendering, they are sitting on a lawsuit goldmine.

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because frick you and the rest of the groomers, that's why.
Very well thought out response and telling of your character. You really don't want to consider the fact that someone is born with gender dysphoria out of their control, and how they might try to cope with living with that illness?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:59 am to
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That’s a cute argument but if they don’t have heavily documented instances prior to this occasion, it won’t hold mustard.


You really don't need all that much to let someone go during probationary period. I've seen several perfectly acceptably performing colleagues be let go at the end of their probation.
Posted by Harry Caray
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:01 pm to
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Because history is riff with trauma and chaos when societies ignore fundamental truth in favor of comfort or perception.

Please link me to the trauma and chaos societies have suffered from trans people existing. I always thought it was more of the war thing.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:01 pm to
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Please provide proof otherwise. If someone is fired SOLELY for misgendering, they are sitting on a lawsuit goldmine.


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Very well thought out response and telling of your character. You really don't want to consider the fact that someone is born with gender dysphoria out of their control, and how they might try to cope with living with that illness?


Sorry for caring about them enough to not call them the wrong thing.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29244 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:01 pm to
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Imagine a governor in a struggling southern state focusing his time and energies on solving real problems like insurance, crumbling roads and flood preparation instead of doing the cultural war thing.


Look, I do think Gov Landry has been mostly a headline reaching, empty suit. But he’s right on this one, and happy he spoke up.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:02 pm to
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I wish we could defund the libraries, but they're so flush with cash, it wouldn't make a dent in them.

The library has like a 600 million dollar surplus

That means that if they sent a refund check to every taxpayer in Baton Rouge, we’d all get like a million bucks
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:03 pm to
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Yeah, that's the typical response I expected.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49420 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:04 pm to
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You really don't need all that much to let someone go during probationary period. I've seen several perfectly acceptably performing colleagues be let go at the end of their probation.



Again, the library is a state actor and this constitutes a potential infringement of a fundamental right. That will not be swept aside just because the supervisors claims that he was fired for not properly writing dates on the library cards in the back of the book.

And I’m not claiming he’ll 100% succeed on a first amendment claim but if I’m the state attorney oooking at this file, I’m telling my people to get ready to pay up or at least be ready for a drawn out fight.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:04 pm to
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Yeah, that's the typical response I expected.


Feel free to do the easiest of google searches and come back with how you wrong you are. I bet you won't though.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:04 pm to
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Again, the library is a state actor and this constitutes a potential infringement of a fundamental right. That will not be swept aside just because the supervisors claims that he was fired for not properly writing dates on the library cards in the back of the book.



I'm talking about at a state agency as well
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49420 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:06 pm to
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Please link me to the trauma and chaos societies have suffered from trans people existing. I always thought it was more of the war thing.


You keep falling back on the strawman of “trans people existing” when the discussion is very clearly the requirement of greater society to conform to a biological falsehood.

Would you care for examples of chaos and trauma of society being pressured to conform to a biological falsehood?
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3302 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:06 pm to
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The library has like a 600 million dollar surplus

That means that if they sent a refund check to every taxpayer in Baton Rouge, we’d all get like a million bucks

That's not a refund. That's a gift.

No way you contributed 1 mil.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49420 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:07 pm to
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I'm talking about at a state agency as well


And how many of those cases revolved a potential infringement of a constitutional right?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:08 pm to
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And how many of those cases revolved a potential infringement of a constitutional right?


No clue because you don't need any real documentation for why you are letting them go
Posted by Harry Caray
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Member since Aug 2009
21045 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:09 pm to
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Feel free to do the easiest of google searches and come back with how you wrong you are. I bet you won't though.

I asked Grok for some examples and all I see are cases that are being rightfully legally challenged, or someone continuing to misgender after their supervisor specifically told them to change their behavior (insubordination).
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