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re: JBE Wants to Release 1200 Prisoners Early Due to CV
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:53 am to The Melt
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:53 am to The Melt
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Most people are on lockdown, of course the bs calls for service and auto accidents are going to go down.
Calls are separated into tiers. I'm referring to "real" calls for service. Calls for service for those kinds of events are down even further.
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Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:56 am to The Melt
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Fearful of persons who have already landed themselves in prison once before..surely they won't commit one crime upon release.
You understand that the overwhelming majority of people who are arrested for allegedly committing a crime will be released at some point, right? As in, over 99.9% of them?
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:03 am to tigergirl10
He wants keep the state locked down for the rest of the year and wants to release a bunch of convicts early.
Stupid fricking liberal idea.
Stupid fricking liberal idea.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:04 am to dnm3305
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Are they non-violent? Half of those motherfrickers probably shouldnt even be in there.
F**k them.
I don't want them trying to "non-violently" steal my shite, either while I'm at work.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:06 am to Joshjrn
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You understand that the overwhelming majority of people who are arrested for allegedly committing a crime will be released at some point, right? As in, over 99.9% of them?
Sadly, that's true. Reduced sentences will really have a great effect on a all these repeat offenders, giving them the message "Do the crime and you won't do the time".
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:06 am to Joshjrn
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Calls are separated into tiers. I'm referring to "real" calls for service. Calls for service for those kinds of events are down even further.
Link? Property crimes and crimes against the person should have gone down 10 fold. How exactly are you factoring in the effect of the release of prisoners in EBR with no control? Your variables are too wild in order to come to the conclusion the release of these prisoners did or didn't have an impact on calls for service and the crime rate. Also, it's also only been a few weeks. Give them time and they will have a negative impact on already suffering law abiding citizens.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 9:12 am
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:09 am to Skillet
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Sadly, that's true. Reduced sentences will really have a great effect on a all these repeat offenders, giving them the message "Do the crime and you won't do the time".
Except that there is zero evidence that this is the case. In fact, there is evidence that the longer the sentence for non-violent offenses, the more likely the individual is to recidivate.
But, by all means, regale us with your "common sense" notions of what the criminal justice system should look like.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:11 am to Joshjrn
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You understand that the overwhelming majority of people who are arrested for allegedly committing a crime will be released at some point, right? As in, over 99.9% of them?
True, but most WILL re-offend and rather quickly. Like, I said before, it's not easy to land in prison and they have most likely been convicted multiple times along with having committed numerous undetected crimes.
They already were most likely exposed to COVID in prison so what exactly is the point of releasing them early at this point? To overload the parole officers even more?
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:11 am to The Melt
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Link?
Don't have one.
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Property crimes and crimes against the person should have gone down 10 fold. How exactly are you factoring in the effect of the release of prisoners in EBR with no control? Your variables are too wild in order to come to the conclusion the release of these prisoners didn't have an impact on calls for service and the crime rate. Also, it's also only been a few weeks. Give them time and they will have a negative impact on already suffering law abiding citizens.
Wait, I'm confused. How can you make that assertion with no control?
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:13 am to The Melt
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They already were most likely exposed to COVID in prison so what exactly is the point of releasing them early at this point? To overload the parole officers even more?
There's zero evidence of this. In fact, as far as we can tell, your odds of being infected in prison, up to this point, are lower than for those who are out. The impetus for trying to release people is that, once the prisons are truly infected, which is only a matter of time, there will be no protecting anyone, and the prisons simply aren't designed to handle that kind of medical emergency.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 9:14 am
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:15 am to Joshjrn
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Except that there is zero evidence that this is the case. In fact, there is evidence that the longer the sentence for non-violent offenses, the more likely the individual is to recidivate.
Your correlations are narrow and shortsighted. Offender A has been sentenced to a "longer" sentence which forces him to recidivate. Oh please. Ever stop to think they are just shitty citizens and will commit hundreds of detected or undetected crimes without consideration of their sentence? Stop blaming the system and blame the offender for once.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 9:17 am
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:21 am to The Melt
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Your correlations are narrow and shortsighted. Offender A has been sentenced to a "longer" sentence thus he WILL recidivate.
I'm saying that, with varying states who have engaged in criminal punishment for hundreds of years, we actually have a fairly robust data set to examine.
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Ever stop to think they are just shitty citizens and will commit hundreds of detected or undetected crimes without consideration of their sentence? Stop blaming the system and blame the offender for once.
Having interacted with more of these "shitty citizens" in a month than you will in a lifetime, I'm very comfortable saying that your generalization is off base and that a vanishingly small percentage of people involved with the criminal justice system are incorrigible.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:22 am to Joshjrn
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Wait, I'm confused. How can you make that assertion with no control?
Extrapolation from the recidivism data of all prisoners in the history of incarceration
. At least you admit that your assertion that the release of EBR prisoners had no impact on the crime rate or calls for service is incorrect because you literally had no data.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 9:23 am
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:23 am to The Melt
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At least you admit that your assertion that the release of EBR prisoners had no impact on the crime rate or calls for service is incorrect because you literally had no data.
I'm not saying I don't have data; I'm saying I don't have a citation I can provide you.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:25 am to vuvuzela
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all they did was sell a little weed I say let em go
Gtfo - quit listening to the fricking echo chambers.
Non-violent also means thieves, DWI’s, Bernie Maddow types etc...
All of these types are non-violent and deserve to spend as much time in prison allowed. Once a thief, always a thief.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:26 am to Joshjrn
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Having interacted with more of these "shitty citizens" in a month than you will in a lifetime, I'm very comfortable saying that your generalization is off base and that a vanishingly small percentage of people involved with the criminal justice system are incorrigible.
Please kid, I have more education, training, and experience in the system than you ever will. Your social worker skills have obviously been working..nobody is recidivating
. Small number incorrigible...that's obviously your sunshine pumping opinion that is against all data. :lol:Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:30 am to The Melt
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Please kid, I have more education, training, and experience in the system than you ever will. Your social worker skills have obviously been working..nobody is recidivating . Small number incorrigible...that's obviously your sunshine pumping opinion that is against all data.
Hey, maybe we can have a more intelligent conversation than I would have previously thought.
I'm a criminal defense attorney. What do you do?
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:37 am to dnm3305
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Are they non-violent? Half of those motherfrickers probably shouldnt even be in there.
This is the correct answer. Yes, some of these people will commit violent crimes but we're no the minority report. People don't need to be in jail for having drugs or for selling drugs to consenting adults.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:40 am to Joshjrn
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I'm a criminal defense attorney. What do you do?
Well, that explains it. Probably an ADA. You deal with the offenders in a controlled environment and look at criminal records. No offense but you obviously have an agenda and a different lens.
...like I would tell you
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:45 am to The Melt
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Well, that explains it. Probably an ADA. You deal with the offenders in a controlled environment and look at criminal records. No offense but you obviously have an agenda and a different lens.
If you've somehow confused a "criminal defense attorney" to the point of believing they are an Assistant District Attorney, or prosecutor, I'm not not even sure if you're from this country, much less involved in the criminal justice system
I kid
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