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re: JBE suggests broad COVID vaccine mandates after FDA approval

Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:24 am to
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:24 am to
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Y’all are simply being hypocrites, no matter how much you try to clean Vince yourself you aren’t

This board used to make fun of the people out west causing virus outbreaks because they refused to get their children to take the vaccines mandatory for daycares and schools because they were scared of side effects

Once this reaches full FDA approval, y’all have nothing besides to say “frick you im a hypocrite and don’t care”


You're getting emotional and making ridiculous statements. That won't help your argument.

It is understandable that people would be skeptical of a rushed vaccine and leery of the long term effects of it. People at less risk should have the right not to be forced into taking it, or giving it to their kids, until they feel comfortable with it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104820 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:24 am to
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Because i don't want to get one. Why do i need more reason than that?

Then don’t get it

And just like before with other vaccines, there will be certain things and places off limits to you
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104820 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:25 am to
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You're getting emotional and making ridiculous statements. That won't help your argument.

It is understandable that people would be skeptical of a rushed vaccine and leery of the long term effects of it. People at less risk should have the right not to be forced into taking it, or giving it to their kids, until they feel comfortable with it.


Im not emotional at all. I’m simply calling out the complete hypocritical nature of this vaccine

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44051 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:25 am to
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Because i don't want to get one.


This is the only justification necessary to not get vaccinated.

Period.

And for the "whataboutists" in the thread, yes, that includes the smelly hippies on the left coast that are anti-vax.



Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104820 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:26 am to
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And for the "whataboutists" in the thread, yes, that includes the smelly hippies on the left coast that are anti-vax.


Its just strange how you seemed to never support them before
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:26 am to
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Im simply asking where was your outrage before?


There wasn't one, and won't be one because that vaccine has been out since the 60's. There is a lot more info on the effects of that one that the COVID shot that has been here less than a year.

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Oh, that’s right, you were making fun of those crunchy hippie smelling moms like the rest of this board and the political board


Was I? Link me please.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 8:28 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55616 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:26 am to
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Then don’t get it

And just like before with other vaccines, there will be certain things and places off limits to you


And as i'm doing now, i'll take my business elsewhere. Shoot up, mask up, and follow all the other triple masks plus weekly boosters all you want. Just, mind your own fricking business.

99.9% survivability rate. The fact people don't understand this is quite astonishing to me.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 8:27 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44051 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:27 am to
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Its just strange how you seemed to never support them before


Please point out what posts I've made that made you come to this conclusion.

I'll wait.

Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
15058 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:28 am to
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Please point out what posts I've made that made you come to this conclusion.

I'll wait.


Don't hold your breath.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30044 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:28 am to
The bottom line is this....if JBE's words and actions over the last week or two don't open the Senate's eyes to hold a vote to do away with the Emergency Order for COVID then nothing will.

I'm on the side that nothing will unfortunately.

ETA I don't understand why the fool doesn't realize that the god damn mask mandate is hurting the call to vaccinate....he is a real idiot.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 8:29 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21429 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:29 am to
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I already had covid.


frick JBE, but just because you had it doesn’t mean you are immune.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58006 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:29 am to
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I am tired of living under constant threat of government lock down state and mask mandate, all entirely preventable by just opting to take a widely available vaccine.


it funny you think it is going to stop without public intervention. They are already going after the vaccinated with booster shots.
Posted by jwill37
The Chuck
Member since Jan 2007
1383 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:29 am to
I don’t understand why people can’t come to terms with the choice to be unvaccinated. Here are a few reasons below. Which of these can you argue against?
1. Our leaders in the medical community have lied to the public numerous times over the last year about things that I don’t put in my body. Why should I trust them when it comes to something I will put in my body.
2. Despite what anyone says there is literally zero data on long terms effects of this vaccine. It’s interesting to me that drug trials and FDA approval typically take 5 to 12 years but we’re willing to approve this in record time without the same scrutiny.
3. The number of potential deaths and adverse effects from the vaccine are much higher than any other vaccine ever produced as reported by VAERS. If VAERS is unreliable then don’t you think it would be incumbent upon our leaders to have a reliable source before mandating a vaccine?
4. You have naturally occurring antibodies from a previous infection that most of the medical community recognize could be a better combatant against COVID.

Maybe I’m just crazy but these all seem like very logical reasons to be hesitant or skeptical.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
70060 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:29 am to
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And just like before with other vaccines, there will be certain things and places off limits to you


interesting.

where does 87 draw the line. mandating federal employees to get it? mandating state employees to get it? pressuring schools to enforce students to get it? pressuring private companies to get it? mandating that the general public has to get it to participate in the free market?
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30044 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:29 am to
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frick JBE, but just because you had it doesn’t mean you are immune.


However, it might mean that you have better immunity than what any vaccine would induce. There simply isn't enough data to know at the moment.
Posted by Eeyore
Mars
Member since Sep 2020
353 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:30 am to
The logic I’ve heard FOR the vax from people outside of the at risk population is : “so I can travel”. “So I can go to concerts”. “Because, everyone else is doing it”. “Pressure at work”. “Mandates at school”. “Pressure from family”. I could go on. It’s often NOT a personal medical decision to those who get it. Another persons vax status is none of your business, but only a dickhead would criticize someone for not getting it. Bunch of drones out there.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
15058 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:31 am to
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interesting.

where does 87 draw the line. mandating federal employees to get it? mandating state employees to get it? pressuring schools to enforce students to get it? pressuring private companies to get it? mandating that the general public has to get it to participate in the free market?


It really is amazing to see so many Americans turn authoritarian so quick. They secretly crave the ability to put people under their thumb.
Posted by limbaughnomicon
Member since Feb 2020
152 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:31 am to
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This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 9:10 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44051 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:31 am to
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Maybe I’m just crazy but these all seem like very logical reasons to be hesitant or skeptical.


Many people here are for government mandates because they enjoy being told how to live their lives by the government.

And they get very angry when people don't do what the government says to do.

Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/6/21 at 8:31 am to
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but just because you had it doesn’t mean you are immune.


Same goes for the vaccine.
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