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Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:53 am to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:53 am to
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New Orleans was in a fairly precarious position for a short time.



nah...over 1000 hospital beds in the convention disagree with you
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:53 am to
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slows spread


Reduces spread

Doesn't reduce infections.
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 9:55 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:56 am to
But if a huge portion of the local population already has it or has had it, then it doesn’t do much if anything.

Like Nola... the only place where hospitals may have needed extra help which was there if necessary.

So... lockdown not necessary.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:57 am to
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Reduces spread

Doesn't reduce infections.
Slows spread is the more appropriate description, considering that, like you said, it does not reduce the number of infections.

The eventual spread is the same, just on a slower trajectory.

The purpose of that being to prevent hospital overruns.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:57 am to
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So... lockdown not necessary.


Agreed. They produce results though
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 9:58 am
Posted by dgtiger3
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:58 am to
I'm on mobile so not very pretty but he lied about Region 4 Increasing as well. At this point we ahould compile charts if every region in the state and share it across social media because many are naive to the flat out lies they are being told.


LDH Region 4
(Acadia, Evangeline, Iberia, Lafayette, St. Landry, St. Martin, Vermillion)

This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 10:07 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:59 am to
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Like Nola... the only place where hospitals may have needed extra help which was there if necessary.




You realize Orleans and Jefferson numbers are almost identical right?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:00 am to
Eh. I put them together. It’s basically one metro area.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76602 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:00 am to
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Agreed. They show results though
Yes, if the endgame is a defined goal/purpose, such as preventing hospital overruns.

Beyond that, the same number will be infected, just at a slower pace.

It does not prevent infections.

It does not help to build herd immunity.

It is a stopgap that was created to buy time for a specific goal.

That is what is lost on people.

Once we obtain that goal, it serves no purpose and actually becomes detrimental.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:01 am to
Is that all of region 4 or just Laffy?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:02 am to
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Eh. I put them together. It’s basically one metro area.




gotcha...Yeah we call that Region 1
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:03 am to
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It is a stopgap that was created to buy time for a specific goal.

That is what is lost on people.

Once we obtain that goal, it serves no purpose and actually becomes detrimental.


I’ll add that it was a stopgap not even needed for LA because it was too late for the specific area it was meant to help most. That’s my main point.

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49097 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:03 am to
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You realize Orleans and Jefferson numbers are almost identical right?


The vast majority of hospitalized COVID cases from Jefferson were hospitalized in NOLA hospitals.

At one point in late March, 66% of every hospitalized COVID patient in the state was in Ochsner Main Campus in New Orleans.

The entire reason for opening up the Convention Center was because New Orleans hospitals were on the brink of capacity.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:03 am to
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I’ll add that it was a stopgap not even needed for LA because it was too late for the specific area it was meant to help most. That’s my main point.



How are you coming to this conclusion though?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:03 am to
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Ochsner Main Campus in New Orleans.


Main Campus is in Jefferson Parish
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:04 am to
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The vast majority of hospitalized COVID cases from Jefferson were hospitalized in NOLA hospitals.
quote:

Ochsner Main Campus in New Orleans.
Ochsner Main is actually in jefferson parish

We use the Nola address for "media"reasons. Its in JP though
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:04 am to
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The entire reason for opening up the Convention Center was because New Orleans hospitals were on the brink of capacity.



West Jefferson and Baptist were never on the brink of capacity
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:04 am to
So we had a contingency ready to go if needed. That’s not relevant? We don’t add those beds to the overall capacity?
Posted by dgtiger3
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2005
5703 posts
Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:05 am to
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that all of region 4 or just Laffy?


It's the entire region, I put Lafayette in the header for people who didn't understand the LDH Region distinctions.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:05 am to
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We don’t add those beds to the overall capacity?


Beds without vents aren't particularly useful at the time yall are discussing.
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