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re: Its official UAB football IS coming back
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:25 pm to FairhopeTider
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:25 pm to FairhopeTider
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Yeah. They've got to find a different approach like that. Nobody is going to skip a UA or AU game to go to a UAB game. Birmingham is the #1 College Football market in the country. That means that most people will be in Auburn/Tuscaloosa, at their homes in front of a flat screen, or at a sports bar. Even with all the publicity lately, UAB can't compete with that. Hell, a lot of the stronger programs are struggling in that regard. UAB struggled with it before and they'll struggle with it again if they rebuild and run things like they did before.
Not to mention the fact that their program is already disbanded and no stadium deal is in the works. Ask SMU how that worked out.
but UAB football is gonna be soooo good now. Wonder if all these Auburn sidewalks are going to donate and buy season tix now?
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:30 pm to 14&Counting
There's the problem. UAB has basically self-imposed the death penalty. They're going to miss a year and have to rebuild the team. Lets assume their first game is 9/3/2016. That's the same day as UA-USC, AU-Clemson, and several other big time games. They'll get completely drowned out. If they aren't competitive for a few years, which could be likely, how does it play out from there?
UAB better hope this local support is truly organic and not a fad.
UAB better hope this local support is truly organic and not a fad.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:33 pm to FairhopeTider
quote:No one in the state will be thinking about UAB with games like that on the slate.
There's the thing. UAB has basically self-imposed the death penalty. They're going to miss a year and have to rebuild the team. Lets assume their first game is 9/3/2016. That's the same day as UA-USC, AU-Clemson, and several other big time games. They'll get completely drowned out. If they aren't competitive for a few years, which could be likely, how does it play out from there? UAB better hope this local support is truly organic and not a fad.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:35 pm to FairhopeTider
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UAB better hope this local support is truly organic and not a fad.
I will be interested to see all of these big money donors they keep talking about put their money where their mouth is...I am highly doubtful they can raise anything close to what is necessary. Plus they are going to continue to play at Legion Field? Where is the City of Birmingham on all of this...It's just the same old shite....The UA system will have to support it or have to go to bond market and float debt....Money that could spent elsewhere at UAB for a better purpose.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:42 pm to RT1941
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No one in the state will be thinking about UAB with games like that on the slate.
Kevin Scarbinsky has been carrying the #freeuab banner. In August 2016, do you think he'll be submitting approval for travel to Dallas to cover the Bama-Southern Cal game or will he be submitting a request for a press box pass at Legion Field for that same day?
We all know the answer to that and I provide that scenario not to state that UA Football > UAB Football. That's not the point here. I say that because the very media who have been championing the story will put it on the backburner the day it returns. They'll treat it the same way they did before.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:50 pm to AU24
If it wasn't financially viable 7 months ago, then why is it now? Caving to public pressure from the several thousand persistent UAB fans, or are there corporate sponsors coming to UAB's aid?
Watts looks moronic all around. He either killed it initially under pressure, or he's bringing it back now under pressure...or both. Either way, he looks spineless.
Watts looks moronic all around. He either killed it initially under pressure, or he's bringing it back now under pressure...or both. Either way, he looks spineless.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:53 pm to HempHead
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I didn't know UAB was in the SEC.
Next expansion...
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:55 pm to bamasgot13
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Watts looks moronic all around.
He really does. The execution of it back in December was terrible. Even if it was a shady, back room decision, he made no attempt to really make it look like a proper, legitimate decision.
I have to assume that this whole fiasco galvanized support for the program from alumni that never contributed before. I guess the City will also throw in more cash than they did before.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 2:58 pm to FairhopeTider
quote:Which was nothing more than an afterthought.
Kevin Scarbinsky has been carrying the #freeuab banner. In August 2016, do you think he'll be submitting approval for travel to Dallas to cover the Bama-Southern Cal game or will he be submitting a request for a press box pass at Legion Field for that same day? We all know the answer to that and I provide that scenario not to state that UA Football > UAB Football. That's not the point here. I say that because the very media who have been championing the story will put it on the backburner the day it returns. They'll treat it the same way they did before.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:00 pm to bamasgot13
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Watts looks moronic all around. He either killed it initially under pressure, or he's bringing it back now under pressure...or both. Either way, he looks spineless.
I mean he just irreprable damage to the program by shutting it down...now they are going to bring it back with no real plan or new stadium deal?
It really is just a clusterfrick all around.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:01 pm to RT1941
The money is being spent to cover 5 years of a deficit (supposedly) and to build a multipurpose practice facility + coaching offices.
Realistically, UAB and Birmingham should align and a build a stadium after about 4-5 years of fundraising. Will that happens? Who knows. Probably not, but one can hope.
I don't know if this current board would even allow UAB a stadium regardless of the situation.
Realistically, UAB and Birmingham should align and a build a stadium after about 4-5 years of fundraising. Will that happens? Who knows. Probably not, but one can hope.
I don't know if this current board would even allow UAB a stadium regardless of the situation.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:03 pm to justausedcarguy
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Its official... your a dumbass!
classic
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:08 pm to dswear
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The money is being spent to cover 5 years of a deficit (supposedly) and to build a multipurpose practice facility + coaching offices.
Great so what happens when the 5-years is up and UAB still can't sustain itself?
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:11 pm to 14&Counting
Obviously stipulations will happen. Yes, you're right, let's just end it now because no fundraising will ever happen again ever.
What happens when every other UAB athletic program isn't making money? They just don't make money. We have tons of non revenue sports and I don't hear the complaints about them. UAB football was one of the least subsidized sports at UAB other than men's Bball. The only way to make UAB's athletic program less dependent is to have a successful football and basketball program. Otherwise, you have one single basketball program trying to prop up everything else which isn't going to happen in Alabama.
What happens when every other UAB athletic program isn't making money? They just don't make money. We have tons of non revenue sports and I don't hear the complaints about them. UAB football was one of the least subsidized sports at UAB other than men's Bball. The only way to make UAB's athletic program less dependent is to have a successful football and basketball program. Otherwise, you have one single basketball program trying to prop up everything else which isn't going to happen in Alabama.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:11 pm to bamasgot13
quote:I thought UAB students/faculty wanted Watts out? Whatever happened to their no-support claim against Watts.
If it wasn't financially viable 7 months ago, then why is it now? Caving to public pressure from the several thousand persistent UAB fans, or are there corporate sponsors coming to UAB's aid? Watts looks moronic all around. He either killed it initially under pressure, or he's bringing it back now under pressure...or both. Either way, he looks spineless.
And did the 3 bills Rep. Jack Williams introduced to the Alabama House of Representatives?
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:13 pm to RT1941
The UAB SGAs, UAB Faculty Senate, UAB alumni society all want Watts out and have voted no confidence. The board of trustees are the only people who can remove Watts and they are on record saying they fully back his decisions. The governor is also on the board. You figure that one out.
The SACS ethics bill passed. The other 2 did not make it out as far as I know.
The SACS ethics bill passed. The other 2 did not make it out as far as I know.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:16 pm to AU24
Congrats Auburn?
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:16 pm to dswear
It's official: No one gives a frick about UAB
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:18 pm to dswear
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Realistically, UAB and Birmingham should align and a build a stadium after about 4-5 years of fundraising. Will that happens? Who knows. Probably not, but one can hope.
What interest does the city have out of building a small stadium? Outside of UAB, what else would go on there?
Building a stadium should be the top priority for UAB going forward and they should be very aggressive about it. Playing at Legion Field is like having an anchor around their necks. However I just don't see the benefit for the City of Birmingham to pay for UAB's stadium unless there's a need for other events to take place there.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:20 pm to dswear
quote:The cost of this exercise in both money and resources is ridiculous. There is no PLAN for the future of UAB today any more than there was this exact same time last year.
The money is being spent to cover 5 years of a deficit (supposedly) and to build a multipurpose practice facility + coaching offices. Realistically, UAB and Birmingham should align and a build a stadium after about 4-5 years of fundraising. Will that happens? Who knows. Probably not, but one can hope. I don't know if this current board would even allow UAB a stadium regardless of the situation.
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