re: "It's nice to see some men still dress like men"

quote:

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The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.“ -Socrates

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This is a flippant and thoughtless way of legitimizing mediocrity and decline.

Maybe Socrates was right about the youth in his time. Maybe people responded to it and changed. Maybe these sorts of things fluctuate and some generations do behave better than others and make their contemporary time a better time to live.

TLDR; that Socrates quote has far less value than people want to give it.