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Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:37 pm to BrodyDad
Your daily reminder that you are being tracked for no reason at all.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:44 pm to chryso
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I don't really understand why you're all so upset about license plate readers when you're walking around with a tracking device in your pocket all day long.
You just unknowingly supported the point instead of what you wanted to do.
Law enforcement need a warrant to access cell phone tracking data. See the Carpenter ruling.
You can also prevent your phone from sending tracking data, you can opt out of having a phone that can be tracked, and you can leave it at home.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:49 pm to BrodyDad
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You certainly can buy cameras and mount them to observe vehicles and license plates.
And have a system that takes that data and compares it to a national database in real time connected to everyone else's cameras that have the same access? And have AI tools to sort and report the information? For the purpose of tracking by the government?
Also does the government, who is actually bound by the 4th amendment, have access to this personal camera without your knowledge? Or is it for personal use?
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:52 pm to BrodyDad
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The technology is a tool in the same way a gun is. It can be used to protect or harm. The tool itself is amoral.
Show the amendment that explicitly states the citizen's right to own surveillance cameras.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 1:05 pm to CleverUserName
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Show the amendment that explicitly states the citizen's right to own surveillance cameras.
When it is done in public, the 1st Amendment.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 1:34 pm to BrodyDad
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When it is done in public, the 1st Amendment.
The first amendment explicitly states it's public right to own surveillance cameras by specific action or name? Or by proxy with other rights?
explicitly
/ik'splis?tle/
Explicitly is an adverb that means doing something in a clear, exact, and direct way.
Because arms is explicitly named in the 2nd.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 5:19 pm to CleverUserName
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The first amendment explicitly states it's public right to own surveillance cameras by specific action or name? Or by proxy with other rights?
Are you that much of a dullard? Or are you just an originalist to the point of being completely obtuse?
You are making my argument for me.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:42 am to Philzilla2k
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And as far as tracking, red light cameras have been used for this purpose, and I’m not aware of any legal action in regards to this specific use.
They are banned in Mississippi.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:49 am to BrodyDad
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Are you that much of a dullard?
Sorry... but who is trying to equate private security camera ownership with law enforcement flock camera usage? When law enforcement is able to access a national system of cameras, that stores vehicle identifying information continuously and indefinitely, and can be used for stalking and harassment? And missing the fact that private ownership of a security camera does not have a single impact on the 4th amendment unlike government's continuous surveillance of vehicles nationwide?
Can you put one of these private cameras somewhere off your property and record someone without their consent? And no one else have a say in its placement?
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Or are you just an originalist to the point of being completely obtuse?
I'm sorry.... didn't you earlier say:
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You just made the best argument for gun control there is....i.e. people cannot be trusted to behave in a non criminal way with this tool, therefore the tool should be banned.
You are the one equating cameras and the mean ole scary guns. When obviously the founders carved out arms, and ownership of, by name in a single amendment. Just for any instance where someone could come along and say..... "well... uhh uhhh uhhh... guunns are legal!? Why you complaining about ______"!?" Well arms has its own amendment with the qualifier of "shall not be infringed".
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 6:44 am
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:15 am to fightin tigers
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The La Governor just made a new deal that we all get to put QR codes on our cars as a tradeoff for not having inspection stickers.
are these permanent, or some renewal period? either way, should be much easier to put something simple in the view of it to block reading.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:15 am to BrodyDad
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Alright Sparky....you keep assuming facts not in evidence. How in the world does a flock camera prevent you from moving or thinking unmonitored?
How does a police officer detaining you needlessly on your day off, with nothing else you have planned to do, affect your day? You had nothing else to do? So what if you had to sit for an hour?
You wouldn't mind a complete vehicle search prior to coming on to any public property would you? That's just to check for safety. Everyone loves safety don't they?
I mean... everyone loves safety brought about with "tools" so much that France created the Committee of Public Safety in the late 1790's. The committee was just a "tool". That turned out ok didn't it?
And really.... in the name of safety and security.... McCarthyism was just a "tool" wasn't it?
And we couldn't have Japanese running around in the US in WWII could we? Cmon... internment camps was just a "tool" for public safety.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:30 am to Steadyhands
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these permanent, or some renewal period? either way, should be much easier to put something simple in the view of it to block reading.
When they were announced the idea was to send them with your registration and then you apply it inside the front window. No idea if that is staying the same.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:55 am to chryso
I use only burners when I leave the house
Posted on 8/20/26 at 9:32 am to CleverUserName
You are conflating human actions that have a tangible physical outcome on your body with a machine that only watches passively.
Olympic track athletes stretch less than this.
Olympic track athletes stretch less than this.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:04 am to BrodyDad
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You are conflating human actions that have a tangible physical outcome on your body with a machine that only watches passively.
From which human actions can then retrieve all of that information that has been passively consumed. It's just an extra step. One solitary extra step.
That's not a stretch. That a small skip.
Oh and there was a part two of that post:
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I mean... everyone loves safety brought about with "tools" so much that France created the Committee of Public Safety in the late 1790's. The committee was just a "tool". That turned out ok didn't it?
And really.... in the name of safety and security.... McCarthyism was just a "tool" wasn't it?
And we couldn't have Japanese running around in the US in WWII could we? Cmon... internment camps was just a "tool" for public safety.
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This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 10:06 am
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:05 am to geauxturbo
Your tax dollars at work!
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:21 am to CleverUserName
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How does a police officer detaining you needlessly on your day off, with nothing else you have planned to do, affect your day? You had nothing else to do? So what if you had to sit for an hour? You wouldn't mind a complete vehicle search prior to coming on to any public property would you? That's just to check for safety. Everyone loves safety don't they? I mean... everyone loves safety brought about with "tools" so much that France created the Committee of Public Safety in the late 1790's. The committee was just a "tool". That turned out ok didn't it? And really.... in the name of safety and security.... McCarthyism was just a "tool" wasn't it? And we couldn't have Japanese running around in the US in WWII could we? Cmon... internment camps was just a "tool" for public safety.
Jesus. How do you get through life?
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:26 am to Willie Stroker
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Jesus. How do you get through life?
Annnnd the formal surrender. Thanks for playing.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:34 am to CleverUserName
Again you are confusing amoral technology with humans with their own biases and moral failures. A nuclear warhead is in itself amoral. It can be used for good (deterrence) and evil.
A nuclear warhead in the wrong hands...bringing human falabilities creates the evil.
Flocks can be used for bad purposes, but that doesnt make the technology something we should ban. Just like evil committed with a gun, th individual who misuses the technology should be punished.
A nuclear warhead in the wrong hands...bringing human falabilities creates the evil.
Flocks can be used for bad purposes, but that doesnt make the technology something we should ban. Just like evil committed with a gun, th individual who misuses the technology should be punished.
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