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re: Italian bridge collapses in Genoa, killing at least 30

Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87739 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:02 pm to
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Damn. I'm going to Italy in 29 days.



I just sent you an Edible Arrangement, brah

Hope things improve
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12216 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:02 pm to
LINK

The Daily Mail has some superb photographs:

Before it fell, a video of one of the piers falling, more on the engineer who said there was a problem, that it was locally called the Wobbly Bridge, and a photo of a sister bridge in Venezuela that had a partial collapse several years ago.

Oh, don't forget the driver of the green truck who just got to be the luckiest man still alive.
Posted by Brinner
Retirement home
Member since May 2008
2656 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:04 pm to
Damn I went to Italy 10 years ago...could have been me.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:05 pm to
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Before it fell, a video of one of the piers falling, more on the engineer who said there was a problem, that it was locally called the Wobbly Bridge, and a photo of a sister bridge in Venezuela that had a partial collapse several years ago.
Any bridge built by the guy who designed them should immediately be torn down.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87739 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:06 pm to
Daily Mail is a questionable news source but they always have some of the best photographs for whatever reason

I know nothing of whatever type of engineering this is, but those supports look rather spindly for a bridge of that size
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:06 pm to
30 people lost their lives and the OT jokes about it

Shame on some of you.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104454 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:08 pm to
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Unless you are contrnding that all of the still-standing Roman arches have withstood lightening strikes, this is somewhat irrelevant.


They probably have... but they aren't steel-reinforced, so it really is pretty irrelevant.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56172 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:15 pm to
This hits close to home. I once drove over that bridge.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103848 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:22 pm to
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exact cause of the collapse was unclear


I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess the bridge was poorly maintained and not structurally sound
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103848 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:28 pm to
My sister was actually just in Italy 3 weeks ago
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104454 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:30 pm to
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I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess the bridge was poorly maintained and not structurally sound




If it really was struck by lightning right before collapsing, I'll go with improperly grounded.

Lightning strikes that main support tower, isn't grounded properly, immediately the electric current is transferred to the reinforcing steel instead of to the ground. The reinforcing steel superheats and expands, cracking the concrete, which causes the whole tower to fail, it collapses, and takes the roadway with it in both directions until the next supports.

Just a theory.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:30 pm to
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My sister was actually just in Italy 3 weeks ago


Genoa, it could have been her.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89386 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:34 pm to
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Genoa, it could have been her.



I read this as "Genoa? I hardly know her."

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52846 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:51 pm to
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causing them to plunge nearly 300 feet to the ground

Excellent journalism.

RIP to those folks. One of my biggest nightmares.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21240 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:57 pm to
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One of my biggest nightmares.
Yep, mine too. Nowhere to go but down with it.
Posted by X123F45
Dictated not Read
Member since Apr 2015
30030 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:02 pm to
So 300 feet. 90ish mph at impact.

Technically, you could live through that.

You'll only wish you were dead.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104454 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Technically, you could live through that.


Well, some people did.
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:07 pm to
Had good Italian wood, and good Italian steel,

They said she'd never go down.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58625 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:07 pm to
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That an observer said he saw a lightening strike on the bridge and then the collapse....in a major storm... as my husband said: roman arches still are standing today.

This bridge was built in the 60s and Brunel's bridges and tunnels built in 1850s in Great Britain are still in use.

LINK


It's not the age of the bridge but it might be the materials used or misused.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58625 posts
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:15 pm to
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I know nothing of whatever type of engineering this is
well it is bridge engineering.
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those supports look rather spindly for a bridge of that size


you know nothing Pettifogger.
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