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re: It is a mathematical certainty that alien life forms exist

Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by lawlcow318008
Member since Sep 2023
262 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:43 pm to
I believe that since the universe is still very young, we may just be the first intelligent life. There may be more in the future but we are probably alone or they are around our intelligence or less.
Posted by holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
1141 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:06 pm to
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i mean based on the fact that we exist it is pretty much a certainty. the odds that we are so rare that out of that many stars we are the only ones to exist are astronomical.


You are wishcasting. There’s no science in your post.

There’s no science anywhere that supports your conclusion.

The odds of life spawning may be so low that a single instance anywhere in the universe was extremely unlikely. We have no fricking clue what those odds are. All we know is that we exist, and that tells us literally nothing about the odds.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:22 pm to
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Until one shows itself, nobody really cares


Bold of you to assume one hasn’t already and we just didn’t know
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11765 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:24 pm to
The rough estimate is that there is one planet per star in the universe.

How many of those 2+E20 planets have atmospheric conditions similar to earth?

You could count all those planets as possibly supporting life "as we know it"

Who knows what other planetary conditions could support life forms of a kind humans have no knowledge
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3907 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:16 pm to
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Life advanced enough to put anything into orbit is rare and nearly non-existent at any given point in time. google "The Great Filter" to find out why.



Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213453 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:22 pm to
If there is, they have no idea where this planet even is… I still this it’s crazy that with all the technology we have that we can’t put a man on mars….
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1426 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:34 pm to
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astronomical


Haha. ISWYDT.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45981 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:44 pm to
One shows up, lol. There are thousands of them here right now. Of different species and levels of intelligence. They have hidden bases all over. We are slowly grooming the sheeple for slow placed disclosure now because so many of your idiots can’t handle the truth.

No only are we not the most advanced creatures in the galaxy we aren’t even the most intelligent or advanced on this planet. Btw we are probably not even from this planet either.

Zebras: who’s behind the door is not only a great song, it’s reality.

We are the entertainment boys, deal with it
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
68134 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:47 pm to
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I still this it’s crazy that with all the technology we have that we can’t put a man on mars….


We can. We just don't have the collective initiative or financial incentive to do so right now.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58004 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:56 pm to
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It is a mathematical certainty that alien life forms exist


Actually, the opposite is true.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58004 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:57 pm to
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TutHillTiger


Wow.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
24942 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:58 pm to
They’re taking over Antarctica and no one is doing a thing
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
8883 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:58 pm to
100% certainty that it is exists. We don't advance as far as we have without them.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8461 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 7:58 pm to
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Show your math.


Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6063 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:01 pm to
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The odds that none of those stars supports planets having intelligible life forms is virtually zero.

I have better odds of taking $20 and winning 10 Powerball jackpots in a row

That’s a solid quote. Here’s another.

The notion that life on earth randomly evolved over time is like saying a tornado went through a junkyard and left an assembled working 747 in its path.

Slim chances. Chances it happened twice are slimmer.

We’re apparently alone. It’s irrelevant one way or the other.

Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45981 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:07 pm to
Don’t believe me ask any AIr Force pilot that flew for 20-30 years, or Commercial pilot or any ship captain that spent his life on the water. If they are being honest they have some strange tales to tell you.

Sorry, It is what it is and they are who they are. The others have always been with us, call them angels, demons, monsters, fairies etc. They are the same thing, inter-dimensional, extra planetary creatures that are not human hence “others” .

There are millions of page of released documents on this through FOIA guys, it’s not a big secret.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 8:11 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45981 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:11 pm to
We were created dude we didn’t just come into existence.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11719 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:13 pm to
that's correct. shouldn't be a question at this point IMO
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
14571 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:22 pm to
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The odds that none of those stars supports planets having intelligible life forms is virtually zero.

That's about the odds of dying of Covid yet we shut down the country and ruined an economy for it. SO you never know.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
18445 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 8:30 pm to
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So there are approximately 200,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars in the observable universe.


Yeah but that is misleading. The planet earth has oceans, land, an atmosphere that protects the surface from UV rays, a magnetic field, and is in the habitable zone. How many other planets can say that?

They have identified many thousands of exoplanets so far and not one has all of these features. They have found lots of planets in the habitable zone, but most of them are ocean worlds and their atmospheres usually aren't well developed. Some astronomer made news recently that he had found an atmosphere that was giving off signatures of life, but his paper has been criticized. For one thing the planet in question is an ocean world (no land at all), so even if there is life, it would be either microbes or fish at most. It would be a major discovery but last I heard other astronomers aren't buying in yet.

Most all of the rocky planets they have found are "super earths" meaning they are rocky, but quite a bit larger than earth. And that matters because larger planets have more gravity and too much gravity might impede life as we know it.

My personal opinion is that each galaxy might have one or two intelligent species. In our galaxy it is us. And other galaxies are so far away that we'll never be able to communicate with aliens in other galaxies.
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