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re: It amazes me how unusual common courtesy is to people in the north

Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:14 pm to
This is such an over generalization on so many levels. I grew up in NJ and spent significant time in many places in the northeast. I went to LSU and lived in Baton Rouge for 12 years. There are some customs unique to each place, but courtesy, politeness, hospitality, and etiquette all vary significantly based on many factors.
I’ve seen many of proper southern gentleman hold the door open for his lady, take his hat off at the table, say grace before eating, but also talk over his S/O, order before her, answer for her, and then eat before she does.
In some cases your confusing class with culture.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:17 pm to
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Some friends of my kids were over to the house once and I corrected them on saying “yes ma’am”.

My wife corrected me saying “they’re from up north, they don’t say yes ma’am.”


Yeah it's a major dick move to tell other people how to talk or how to address you. Kind of like those transgender weirdos who demand we refer to them as Xi and Zur.
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 7:24 pm
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:21 pm to
Well apparently they didn't because my wife couldn't find it.

If they did it was probably for immigrants.

In fact, now that I think about it, I think she did find it and it was in the "cultural" aisle.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35780 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:54 pm to
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Nice way to treat your guests.


You mean kids?

I have no problem correcting other people’s kids at my house. shite, thats how it was when I was a kid.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35780 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:55 pm to
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Yeah it's a major dick move to tell other people how to talk or how to address you.


Y’all realize I’m talking about kids right?

How old are y’all? No way you were a kid in the 80’s.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
7424 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 7:57 pm to
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I’ve spent a lot of time in the northeast lately and shite like holding doors open, saying “yes ma’am/sir”, and letting people go before you in line is unfathomable to them. I had some old lady act like I just brought her dog back to life when I held the door for her. The difference in cultures is shocking


I was in the Hamptons a few years ago, yeah not so subtle brag, and told the waitress 'yes mam'. She made a comment and I said I was sorry if I offended her, it's a habit. Lady ended up being from Slidell and was super nice. CSB.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62575 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:08 pm to
How were you “correcting” them? What did they do wrong?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62575 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:08 pm to
I was a kid in the 80s.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37613 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:14 pm to
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How were you “correcting” them? What did they do wrong?

My kids don't normally say it because it's considered pretty weird here but I remind them to do it when we visit the South. They still forget all the time and it's kind of funny watching people's expressions because you can tell they're dying to correct them.
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5729 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:17 pm to
Says a gump..
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62575 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:21 pm to
I can imagine.

I’m just giving alajones a hard time. I don’t think he was rude per se, it’s just that his reaction was to assume that they were being rude, and he had to set them straight, when in reality, it was just a cultural difference (presumably).
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35780 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:25 pm to
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How were you “correcting” them? What did they do wrong?


Saying “yeah” to an adult?

Is that how things were in everyone else’s house? You just talk to adults like you talk to your buddies?

ETA: I didn’t think they were being rude. But at my house, adults are addressed with sir and ma’am.
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 8:28 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37613 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:29 pm to
I can see both sides. In alajones case it sounds like the kid was from the North and moved down South in which case I can understand giving the kid a heads up on how it's done in his new home region. If the kid is just visiting there's nothing to "correct". He's not being rude, he's just acting within the norms of a different region.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25771 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:30 pm to
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quote:
Sounds like you're a miserable POS


Why? Are you in the habit of letting people get in front of you in line often? Seems odd to me.


Grats, you just proved the OP's point.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62575 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:47 pm to
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Grats, you just proved the OP's point.


How so? Parse through my response, and explain your statement.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62575 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:48 pm to
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Saying “yeah” to an adult? Is that how things were in everyone else’s house? You just talk to adults like you talk to your buddies?


No, just sounds like a kid to me. I have a hunch that you would consider “yes” to be inappropriate too though.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 5:51 am to
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Although you meet assholes everywhere, I didn’t find any of them to be as rude as Cajuns (particularly the older crabby women) in Louisiana.


Them wimmen in Pine Prairie and Turkey Creek ain't Cajun, baw.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
5012 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 6:15 am to
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Sounds like you're a sucker.


Sounds like you're a pick.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
14856 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:47 am to
It's bad up here(north). It will spread to the south be4 you know it
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297836 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:00 am to
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Why? Are you in the habit of letting people get in front of you in line often? Seems odd to me.
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Grats, you just proved the OP's point.


I let someone in front at the store if they have a couple items and I have a lot. It's common courtesy.

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