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Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:47 pm to
Here is what Hamas stands for. This was written into their charter on their founding:



Anyone still think they are simply "wanting peace?"
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:48 pm to
It should be noted their charter has changed.

Not a defense of Hamas, but just clarifying that it isn't their current charter.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41779 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:04 pm to
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I think it's more of I despise middle eastern terrorists more than I support Israel. Israel is just the ones always fighting them





This is it.

They hate us just as much as they hate Israel.

We help them fight there so that we don't have to fight here.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41779 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:07 pm to
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The highest level of support for Hamas is just 38%...and that's in Gaza.


So you're just gonna ignore that 67% of the ragheads support attacking Israeli citizens?
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:10 pm to
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I don't why y'all keep entertaining a sympathizer



We laugh at simpletons who call everyone they don't agree with Nazis, racists, misogynists, etc. Yet here you are, demonstrating your brilliance calling someone a (terrorist/Hamas) "sympathizer." It's unlikely you will ever know the true irony in your words.

quote:

...suggesting he is a cross between Robert O’Neil and Ethan Hunt


I've suggested nothing of the sort and your particular choice reveals more about you than you realize.

What I have suggested is that I know a little something about the situation and its background. Sometimes we like to spar on the internet too. It's a chance to articulate arguments and positions in a risk free environment - "as iron sharpens iron" and all that (not you...you're soft as baby shite) - and have a little fun while remaining anonymous for a change.

Cheers.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64519 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:15 pm to
You say "we" over and over again like you are a member of the illuminati or some shite
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

So you're just gonna ignore that 67% of the ragheads support attacking Israeli citizens?



I didn't ignore it. I specifically addressed that number in a previous post.

It's about 50%-50% on "armed resistance" vs. "non-violent means" with regard to the overall situation, so that supports the idea that 67% number is a little skewed/biased by the context of settler aggression.

(Settler attacks on Pali villages in the B Zones was one of the underlying themes of the data collection - which was done by interviews, meaning those responses weren't given in a contextless vacuum. You bring up settler attacks and it's going to elicit a much stronger response than usual. The B Zone activity is one of the major flashpoints in the entire deal...which I discussed in a post awhile back.)
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144246 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:19 pm to
You should probably take your Paxil and go to bed.

Your perception at how you are being received is not jiving with the reality.

I’m trying to do you a favor.
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

You say "we" over and over again like you are a member of the illuminati or some shite



Zing! You got me good. I may never recover.

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78939 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:22 pm to
Nah, Burt literally understands ever facet of the Israeli-Midle East problem and can break it down to the minute detail. The north, the south, the heights and even Syria. Burt knows it.

Something experts and scholars can't even get their heads around? Burt has it. Too bad they sent his arse home.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38722 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:23 pm to
All the feeds just went down.

Guess it’s go time?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:23 pm to
For frick's sake....this shite again?
Posted by FrickingWolves
Member since Aug 2021
26 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:23 pm to
The baby in the diaper was over the top for me. More people should watch it. We have 6 week old twins, I would kill anybody that hurt them. This is different, how do you fight and kill an entire people or mindset that thinks this is ok?
Posted by lz2112
Largo, Fl
Member since Oct 2019
1172 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

The highest level of support for Hamas is just 38%...and that's in Gaza.


The highest level of support the Nazis got was 37 percent. The other 63 percent looked the other way while they murdered a continent.

Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:32 pm to
quote:

You should probably take your Paxil and go to bed.

Your perception at how you are being received is not jiving with the reality.

I’m trying to do you a favor.


You again? Do you do anything other than make passive-aggressive smartass comments from behind your keyboard?

The Israelis will invade if/when they're ready so you can watch on livestream what other human beings are actually doing. You'll be able to get your risk-free spectate on soon enough. My guess is they'll focus on killing Hamas in Gaza and maybe Hez up north if they decide to jump, so you might be disappointed by the lack indiscriminate bloodshed.


Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:33 pm to
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All the feeds just went down.

Guess it’s go time?



No, not until around 8am our time, I think.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:34 pm to
I don't think much live is coming out of Gaza at the moment. Looks like all feeds may be down.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19656 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:37 pm to
Feeds are still up for me. I'm hearing small arms fire, but don't see anything going down on camera.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:37 pm to
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