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Posted on 12/30/16 at 2:12 pm to NolaGirl11
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My dad was pretty high up on the commercial side of a mid sized Pharma company specializing in Oncology. He said on numerous occasions that there is no incentive to do R&D for a cure when they make more with treatments
Sounds like your dad likes to run his mouth about stuff he doesn't know shite about.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 2:12 pm to High C
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I realize that this is one individual, but that's horse's mouth stuff right there.
From one horse, who was not in research, and was in one company. Even if you take the statement at face value, and assume it is true for all pharma companies, it doesn't mean anything. Research isn't only done by commercial entities. A lot of oncology research is sponsored by the National Cancer Institute, a government health research entity. They are not concerned about the profit margin. Please stop thinking there is a conspiracy to keep cancer treatments from people.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 2:16 pm to BR Tiger
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Please stop thinking there is a conspiracy to keep cancer treatments from people.
I think you mean cure.
I also think it's a not so far fetched conspiracy.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 2:24 pm to High C
Many are cured of cancer everyday.
There are many types of cancer with many types of treatment. Some work better than others.
To think there is one cure for all cancers is silly.
Unfortunately, people die from viruses and bacteria illnesses all the time as well as cancer.
There are many types of cancer with many types of treatment. Some work better than others.
To think there is one cure for all cancers is silly.
Unfortunately, people die from viruses and bacteria illnesses all the time as well as cancer.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 2:26 pm to NolaGirl11
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My dad was pretty high up on the commercial side of a mid sized Pharma company specializing in Oncology. He said on numerous occasions that there is no incentive to do R&D for a cure when they make more with treatments.
Yogagirl is that you?
Posted on 12/30/16 at 2:59 pm to WITNESS23
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I think it's a pretty silly thought
It is. There are "cures" for various cancers but we haven't found a cure all as of yet, but I believe the answer is in nanotechnology. It might be 10 years from being the cancer "vaccine."
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:06 pm to High C
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Is there already a cure for cancer?
Could get and a lot of trouble for saying this, but yes.
However, we only give it out to politicians, doctors, and their families.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:08 pm to CrimsonTideMD
The best hope the rest of y'all have is to raise your overall body pH. The higher the better
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:08 pm to CorkSoaker
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Many are cured of cancer everyday. There are many types of cancer with many types of treatment. Some work better than others. To think there is one cure for all cancers is silly.
This is not a personal attack on you, but I am well aware of that. My mother was "cured" from ovarian cancer prior to my grandfather's death. Maybe I should have used the term "various cellular mutations" in the OP instead of cancer.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:32 pm to High C
Gleevec works pretty damn well against CML
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:54 pm to High C
Given that there are a number of types of cancer, some have a cure and some don't.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:55 pm to LSU Fan SLU Grad
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For as smart as Steve jobs was, he is responsible for his own death by relying on natural remedies and alternative medicine to fight his cancer. He avoided more modern medical solutions, which led to his downfall.
He was on record saying he regretted that decision and for not opting for surgery.
This is a common misconception about Steve Jobs treatment.
He did have surgery, a liver transplant, his regret was possibly waiting too long before having it.
Jobs had a islet cell carcinoma which makes up only 5% of cancers of the Pancreas. At the time there were less than a dozen physicians in the world with experience treating that particular type, and there was no uniform agreement on what the treatment protocol should be. People with this type of cancer often have it for a decade before diagnosis, and median survival with the various t5reatment protocols used at the time was five years post diagnosis, Jobs survived 8 years. It highly unlikely he would have gained a single day by doing anything differently.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:55 pm to jacquespene8
nope. hope they find one in the next 40 years
Posted on 12/30/16 at 3:59 pm to LSU Fan SLU Grad
quote:link?
He was on record saying he regretted that decision and for not opting for surgery.
I'm intrigued
Posted on 12/30/16 at 4:02 pm to stout
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Jimmy Carter is 92 and successfully survived a cancer scare. That doesn't happen for average 92 year olds.
It's no secret that Jimmy Carter was treated with a new cancer drug and was a strong responder. It's called Keytruda. Had he been in the same shape a few years ago he almost certainly would have died.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 12/30/16 at 4:02 pm to boatless2
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We have plenty of technology that will allow trucks to get 30/40 mpg instead of the 10-15 they get now, but then oil companies wouldn't make any money.
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All vehicles with a "computer" in them are made to burn extra gas. That's the entire purpose of the catalytic converter. People think an Oxygen sensor is really needed on a vehicle. Oxygen is a good thing, except for oil companies.
weapons grade stupid
Posted on 12/30/16 at 4:05 pm to High C
Cure is probably not the best term to use in conjunction with this type of disease. All that can really be determined is at a particular moment in time using the diagnostic testing currently available no evidence of the disease can be found. If the patient lives long enough it will likely return. When talking about the odds of surviving a particular type of cancer, the five year survival rate is often used, which for many cancers can look very promising, but the statistics at 10 years for the same cancer of often dismal.
Posted on 12/30/16 at 4:09 pm to High C
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a cure for cancer?
Which type of cancer? There are cures for many.
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colon cancer
Screened for and cut off in the precancerous stage quite often, if people make it to their primary care appointments and are followed by a doctor over a long period of time.
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already a cure, but there was too much money to be made in treatment
Do you actually believe that the first drug that cures a specific type of cancer isn't going to outsell the hell out of one that didn't cure the disease? The company that can cure it can charge whatever the hell they want, the insurance will pay it, and the overcharging will go into giving it away for free to a lot of uninsured folks.
An illustration, if you have CML with a Philadelphia chromosome mutation, it is easily cured by Gleevec (Imatinib,I do believe). The course costs upwards of 10 or 20K USD, showing that cancer can be cured and profitably so. It's admittedly way more boring than conspiracy theories, though.
Edit to change "XML" to "CML"
This post was edited on 12/30/16 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 12/30/16 at 4:11 pm to High C
no one hid the cure for cancer when your grandfather passed.
how do I know? Some drug company would have made a TRILLION dollars from a cure for cancer.
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