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re: Is the hydroxyclorquine working or not?

Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:10 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 4:05 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38615 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:10 pm to
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I’m a republican, but there is a flip side to this. A lot of folks on the right thought this was just the flu. They were correct.



Fixed
Posted by Man With A Plan
Member since Nov 2019
899 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:11 pm to
And we also should have the choice as to whether or not we want to take the inevitable vaccine that is being funded by depopulation advocate Bill Gates. It will be "mandatory" even though that is against the constitution, and our freedom. My body my choice right dems?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107839 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:11 pm to
People will get mad at Dr. Fauci cause he “is a deep state libtard”, but a shite ton of studies will be needed to see if it works

When the survival rate of something is already 99%, it’s hard to tell if medicine “works”, because 99% of people survive without anything

That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be using the meds, but it will take a while before we really know what works and what doesn’t
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11452 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:12 pm to
If CNN says something, believe the opposite.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10953 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:12 pm to
Frick the person who downvoted my post. I would gladly check knuckles at any Sonic to the vagina that downvoted a post about my mom who has Corona and is trying not to become a statistic.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107839 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:15 pm to
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Frick the person who downvoted my post. I would gladly check knuckles at any Sonic to the vagina that downvoted a post about my mom who has Corona and is trying not to become a statistic.


I didn’t get downvote, so dknt get mad

I am assuming your mom is in her 60s

That means she already has a 98.5% chance of survival

So is the medicine working, or is she just surviving Becuase 98.5% of people do without meds
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:18 pm to
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If CNN says something, believe the opposite.

I'm starting to think the same about a lot of OT posters. It is just sad to see people whose opinion on everything is determined by how it might affect their "side." And it seems a lot of people on both sides fall into that trap.
Posted by bakersman
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2011
5972 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:21 pm to
One of my salesmen is on quarantine because his wife tested positive. She’s taking it and is no longer showing symptoms after the 2nd day of taking it. And she was sick as a dog before taking it
Posted by Menji
Las Vegas
Member since Jan 2009
668 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:24 pm to
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When the survival rate of something is already 99%, it’s hard to tell if medicine “works”, because 99% of people survive without anything


Except that's not what's going on. It's not 99%. The death rate of ~1.4% is not weighed against resolved cases...meaning we don't know whether they're going to die yet or be cleared.

As of yesterday, 27% of people who had a clear result one way or another were dead. And 73% were recovered.

The 1.4% is just dividing deaths by all confirmed cases, many of whom just haven't died yet. It's meaningless.

We know it works. We don't know how well it works for extremely dire cases, just yet. That's about it. And even with that, it's better than nothing.
Posted by Man With A Plan
Member since Nov 2019
899 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:25 pm to
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People will get mad at Dr. Fauci cause he “is a deep state libtard”, but a shite ton of studies will be needed to see if it works
If you don't want the drug then don't take it, simple. Not a hard concept here, nobody is saying that it is the ultimate cure, but there are no risks and it could help people. Don't understand why Dems are routing for the virus and want to continue to be shut down for the rest of time. If something potentially could save your life, you should have the right to try.
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
1602 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:29 pm to
Nope. It was just a way for Trump to get through a few days of the news cycle. He needed a boost, so he grabbed something he could sell to his base. Since they love conspiracy theories and get their expertise from YouTube videos, they bought it hook, line, and sinker.

He’ll have some new bullshite to feed them when the Hydrochloroquine con runs its course.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:35 pm to
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As of yesterday, 27% of people who had a clear result one way or another were dead. And 73% were recovered.

So, do you think the ultimate rate will end up being closer to 27% or 1.4%?
Posted by Menji
Las Vegas
Member since Jan 2009
668 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:35 pm to
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Becuase 98.5% of people do without meds


Incorrect. That's what I thought until yesterday too. See link. In the US, there are still ~423k people of ~465k confirmed cases total who have neither died or been cleared of virus. If you look at the "Recovered" (25k) and "Deaths" (16k) column...those remaining 423k are going to end up in one of them, eventually. And the death one is nowhere near 1.5%.

However, the French study with a 99.3% success rate was referring to end results, aka either recovered or dead. It works.

Worldwide numbers by country.
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:37 pm to
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If Trump cured cancer the media and dems would still cry. Never seen a bigger group of babies in my life than your typical 2020 Democrat.


Yep. Trump and his staff are on the cusp of curing cancer and the whole scientific world is balling.
Posted by Menji
Las Vegas
Member since Jan 2009
668 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:41 pm to
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So, do you think the ultimate rate will end up being closer to 27% or 1.4%?


Worldwide? I think it'll be closer to 1.4%...*because* of the HCQ+azithromycin treatment.

But aside from that, I'd ballpark it at maybe 10%...because some of the early deaths are just people waiting too long and it progressing too far before getting treated, some is the more vulnerable dying first, some is just that there are plenty of unresolved cases because it's early and we have 1st world healthcare, so they haven't fallen into the recovered pot yet.

But apparently we're gonna have plenty of drugs, so I'd expect ours to be under 1% eventually...mainly the ancient, obese, or those whose heart conditions prevent them from getting the treatment.
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11607 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:02 pm to
The truth is always somewhere in the middle
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107371 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:03 pm to
My fish are still alive and thriving. I see no reason to fear this drug.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 9:04 pm
Posted by wally
Louisiana
Member since May 2011
789 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:09 pm to
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From what I gather, its definitely not a miracle cure.


Just curious, why are you so sure its not a cure?
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:13 pm to
I know 2 people that tested positive and were on it. They are both fine now so I say yes.
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