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re: Is the earth flat?

Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:09 pm to
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:09 pm to
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You can't predict the wind either way. Coriolis is one small thing about maybe predicting the way it will go?

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Once ships move beyond the horizon, they began to experience refraction from the bottom up.



I'll give you an A for the troll effort and a big fat F in physics.

These flat earth threads are amusing.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:11 pm to
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I'll give you an A for the troll effort and a big fat F in physics.
Yeah I was smarter than my physics teachers. I always bothered them with questions. I slept and graduated valedictorian. I'm glad you made them proud

I know, I know I have a mental illness because someone called me stupid and I told the truth to defend myself.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 10:16 pm
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:17 pm to
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I know, I know I have a mental illness


at the very least, your ego far outweighs your intellect...
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:19 pm to
I'm happy any time to stop the personal attacks and go back to arguing. I didn't start it. You can notice this.

I would love to stick to the arguments. I'm not the one who didn't. How many times do I have to point this out?

So can't beat me in arguing because you're wrong
Can't beat me in personal attacks because you're wrong

What do you want to do?

Maybe go investigate and get prepared to prove me wrong so you can do it honestly? I would love for you to do that. That's what I did.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:34 pm to
It’s really funny how we have people in here who use round earth models every single day in their field (meteorology for example) to make very accurate predictions time and time again… and you’re just like nah they are wrong I’m just smarter and thought for myself.

I can’t believe the troll has worked this long lol
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:40 pm to
Oh well the app and the forum proves it. Actual snipers say they don't.

Do they adjust for curvature? At 1000m there is about a foot of downward curvature according to the geometry. At 3000m almost 3 feet.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 10:41 pm
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:45 pm to
How do they use round earth models? Why would they need to? Earth's weather is a closed system, you don't need to study space's effects. And meteorology is accurate now?

And that meteorologist said I should take the win :)


Pilots use a flat earth model. They measure a lateral distance, don't adjust for curvature or spin. And it works.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 10:56 pm to
Just explain how in the picture that was posted in the link to supposedly prove round earth actually shows the masts of the ship at the same height off the water line. The argument was the curve of the earth obscured the ship but it's obvious it didn't and only distorted it. So explain why that happens, why doesn't the curve just cover it like they say it should? Why is round earth still valid from that perspective? The argument is clearly wrong. This was the test of round earth. It was wrong. So how is earth still round based on that reasoning? Why is this clearly faulty argument being promoted?
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:01 pm to


Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6674 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:04 pm to
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Pilots use a flat earth model. They measure a lateral distance, don't adjust for curvature or spin. And it works.

What's the name of this model (map projection) you refer to, in particular for trans Atlantic or Pacific flights?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:04 pm to
Or just one giant swirl, right? Take one of those swirls, center it over the flat map. The top is generally going one direction and the bottom the other. Plausible right?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:06 pm to
It's not official. They just teach them to assume a flat non rotating earth in training and then it's never adjusted for even if they become commercial intercontinental pilots, by that time most have forgotten and the others are banned by their unions from giving interviews.
Posted by threeputtforbogie
Addison, TX
Member since Sep 2017
976 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:07 pm to
I’m convinced you’re a troll at this point. If the ship were to sail away from the observer, it would completely disappear from view. There’s your stupid proof. You don’t even need trig.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:07 pm to
It spins because the earth is rotating and round.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:08 pm to
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If the ship were to sail away from the observer, it would completely disappear from view
From the bottom up, through slow distortion as the height never changes until it finally disappears. You can go to the beach and check this or find the videos.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:09 pm to
Why is the earth rotating and round?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71795 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:11 pm to
How come every single picture of the Earth I look at is flat? Every one of em, every single pic either in a book, on tv, or on the interwebs is flat.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:12 pm to
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Why is the earth rotating and round?


The gravitational pull from my gigantic penis.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6674 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:14 pm to
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It's not official. They just teach them to assume a flat non rotating earth in training and then it's never adjusted for even if they become commercial intercontinental pilots, by that time most have forgotten and the others are banned by their unions from giving interviews.

Wrong.

For long distance flights the fundamental "model" or geoid is WGS-84.

You can look it up and the reasons why.

Perhaps next time try a topic you know something about.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71795 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:16 pm to
Yeah, well....how come if the Earth is round how come all my shoes are flat?
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