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re: Is marijuana a gateway drug to increasingly bad issues?
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:20 pm to cas4t
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:20 pm to cas4t
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To say marijuana causes someone to eventually turn to crack or heroine or something is absurd IMO
But........exposure to those who push the next level and more addictive drugs is now there. I know a couple that spiraled down this path, smoking grass was great for them, they had money and the folks that smoked grass with money and sold them the grass introduced them to coke, then as the money turned into scratches up mirrors they were introduced to meth. Fast forward to a couple of stints in jail and loss of a business and family..........probably should have never smoked the grass.
Remember that some have addictive personalities and lower levels of self restraint. To those people, grass is certainly a gateway to escalating bad life choices.
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:24 pm to TheAlmightySmash
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my only argument is nobody starts out shooting heroin.
Speak for yourself buddy.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:26 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Who cares if it's a gateway drug? What difference does it make?
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:26 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Children, think of them sometime.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:28 pm to Old Sarge
It's a proven fact that marijuana is not physically addictive. People get addicted to it mentally. But it does not cause withdrawals. It's a far reach to say that they did coke because they smoked pot. Their dealer could have never recommended coke, and they may have never tried it. But pot and coke are insanely different in terms of how it makes you feel. One does not make you crave the other. Your friends circumstance is pure coincidence and maybe even just curiosity.
IMO.
IMO.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:29 pm to Meauxjeaux
My gateway drug was caffeine. It's been all downhill since.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:37 pm to Cdawg
Mine was Silver Creek snuff in 1980.
I killed my first stray a month later.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:37 pm to Meauxjeaux
I think it depends on the individual. If they have the propensity to be a substance abuser, then yes. I smoked some reefer when I was in my 20's and 30's but just gave it up cold turkey with no problem. I have tried other drugs but never became an addict. To much to lose being a druggy
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:38 pm to Sao
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Mine was Silver Creek snuff in 1980.
I've gone this whole time thinking you were somewhere around 19-23 years old or so. Learn something new everyday I guess.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:38 pm to cas4t
You missed the point.
It was about exposure and opportunity.
The guy at HEB ringing up that case of Bud light or bottle of wine isn't going to pull out a small bag of coke and say, "hey fella, this alcohol is ok, but you should really try this shite"
But there is a strong chance at some point the guy meeting you at the corner store to give you that week or months supply of grass will do that exact thing at some point in time.
It was about exposure and opportunity.
The guy at HEB ringing up that case of Bud light or bottle of wine isn't going to pull out a small bag of coke and say, "hey fella, this alcohol is ok, but you should really try this shite"
But there is a strong chance at some point the guy meeting you at the corner store to give you that week or months supply of grass will do that exact thing at some point in time.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:43 pm to Old Sarge
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You missed the point.
It was about exposure and opportunity.
The guy at HEB ringing up that case of Bud light or bottle of wine isn't going to pull out a small bag of coke and say, "hey fella, this alcohol is ok, but you should really try this shite"
But there is a strong chance at some point the guy meeting you at the corner store to give you that week or months supply of grass will do that exact thing at some point in time.
Is this the best you can come up with?
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:47 pm to Barf
I don't need to "come up" with anything. I've seen enough in this life to make things perfectly clear.
I've watched several casual grass users go from good old country boys smoking a joint to paranoid gun in one hand bag of coke in the other begging me to help keep them out of prison.
Real life is what it is
I've watched several casual grass users go from good old country boys smoking a joint to paranoid gun in one hand bag of coke in the other begging me to help keep them out of prison.
Real life is what it is
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:52 pm to Old Sarge
We all have that pill head GOB reference we know of. GTFO saying it's the norm. And move out of Diboll, loser.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:54 pm to Sao
Never said it was the norm. Where did you take that stupid statement from?
But you do have a higher probability of using stronger drugs if you smoke grass.
What is Diboll?
But you do have a higher probability of using stronger drugs if you smoke grass.
What is Diboll?
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:54 pm to Old Sarge
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Real life is what it is
You're dead right, but these pot heads can't handle the truth.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:58 pm to Old Sarge
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But there is a strong chance at some point the guy meeting you at the corner store to give you that week or months supply of grass will do that exact thing at some point in time.
You watch entirely too much tv
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:12 pm to Old Sarge
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I don't need to "come up" with anything. I've seen enough in this life to make things perfectly clear.
I've watched several casual grass users go from good old country boys smoking a joint to paranoid gun in one hand bag of coke in the other begging me to help keep them out of prison.
Real life is what it is
How do you make the connection between the two? You can't just say A causes B without an evidence. How do you know it wasn't something else entirely?
It's been proven over and over and over again that the gateway drug thing is a bunch of rhetoric.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:14 pm to Old Sarge
I see what you're saying yet still find it far fetched. I sure as shite can't buy any other drugs from the hipster that sells me weed.
I think it's stretching the term "gateway drug" in your example. Blaming their bad decision making on pot is disingenuous. Pot isn't a drug you have to go into the hood and roll your window halfway down and sketchily buy it. Maybe it was for them at one point, but it's not been that way for a long time in my experience.
Seriously, think about what you're saying. You're blaming a plant that makes you giggly and hungry for someone ruining their life on a physically addicting drug. It's just not the same and you are far behind on the times, Sarge.
It's not real life. It's your fallacious reasoning that has absolutely no merit in the real world.
I think it's stretching the term "gateway drug" in your example. Blaming their bad decision making on pot is disingenuous. Pot isn't a drug you have to go into the hood and roll your window halfway down and sketchily buy it. Maybe it was for them at one point, but it's not been that way for a long time in my experience.
Seriously, think about what you're saying. You're blaming a plant that makes you giggly and hungry for someone ruining their life on a physically addicting drug. It's just not the same and you are far behind on the times, Sarge.
It's not real life. It's your fallacious reasoning that has absolutely no merit in the real world.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:19 pm to Meauxjeaux
why cant we learn that its impossible to protect people from themselves?
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:28 pm to cas4t
I am basing my statements on empirical evidence while you are simply using a rationalistic view to make your point
One is much greater than the other
One is much greater than the other
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