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re: Is it wrong for a private school to brag about higher testing scores? (Twitter battle)

Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 6:59 pm to
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Maybe it’s because wealthy people for the most part are pretty intelligent and intelligent people normally have kids that are the same way?

we're not supposed to say intelligence is genetic

and i think that's unkind to the less fortunate in the long run
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:04 pm to
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My opinion: Honestly it just sounds like jealousy from Jimbo. Fertitta never compared CHS to "students that have special needs or come from poverty," he compared CHS to the entire state as a whole, which includes other private schools. It shows how much better his school is compared to others. ? Also I'm sure CHS has some outliers in their student body as well.


Well you are looking a concentrated small sample vs a much larger sample. In this case, CHS is a smaller population size that has some form of selective admission (like a college). So it's going to be very different compared to institutions that do not have those requirements.

"A few outliers" are neglible because 1) they are probably just average students and 2) selective schools usually remove anything they don't like. They are privately funded so they have the freedom to that. A regular school doesn't have that option ( outside of crime related incidents).

So the Zachery coach is correct in that you're comparing two completely different populations. Add in the fact that even in average public schools with no social problems, the scores wouldn't tend to be that high.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23251 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:30 pm to
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BRHS has an average score of 25.8. LHS, 23. I'd like to know the average scores of the Catholic and other non-public schools.

Didn’t think you will have much luck finding those numbers
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:39 pm to
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Didn’t think you will have much luck finding those numbers

Most put them on their website. Episcopal says their average is 27, Parkview 25, St Michaels 23 etc.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23251 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:43 pm to
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Most put them on their website. Episcopal says their average is 27, Parkview 25, St Michaels 23 etc.

I wonder the validity though
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:45 pm to
I have no clue. They probably aren't regulated like the government run schools on reporting.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:56 pm to
Baker 15.1
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:57 pm to
CHS did not call out Zachary directly, nor did they insult their kids, only promoted their brand. Zachary coach did both. He comes off like a giant bitch in my book, especially going after kids.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 7:58 pm to
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Parkview 25, St Michaels 23 etc.





That's really not very good for the money.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57793 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:00 pm to
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That's really not very good for the money.

if that's what you're paying for, i guess
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51453 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:03 pm to
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if that's what you're paying for, i guess

A kid that's going to make a 30 on the act would probably do that at any of those schools. Most people send their kids to private because they don't want to live in the burbs and want a better peer group for their kids than public schools in places like BR and Nola can offer.

Either private or they send them to magnet.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58936 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:04 pm to
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I'm a CHS grad from many years ago and I can see both sides of it. Lot of truth coming from the Zachary side, but CHS dickriders will call it jealousy.

I can't see both sides, there is no side. CHS posted their scores, they kicked the shite out of all the others. If I was on the fence it wouldn't take long to see that the scholarship money your kid will probably earn will offset tuition.

If you dont like it, do better.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58936 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:06 pm to
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Add in the fact that even in average public schools with no social problems, the scores wouldn't tend to be that high.

Well, maybe our educators and such should go about fixing em. Instead of whining about valid information.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48701 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:09 pm to
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Ain't none of them nerds playing football for Catholic.


Their All-State Defensive Lineman has a 35 on the ACT and is going to West Point.

Their All-District Offensive Tackle has a 35 on the ACT and is going to Harvard.

Their All-State Center has a 31 on the ACT and is going to Rice.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 8:24 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117312 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:17 pm to
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we're not supposed to say intelligence is genetic



Not all wealthy people are intelligent, but they are able to go to better schools.

There are poor people who are intelligent, but don't know how to apply it because they don't have the best education and environment to flourish.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6437 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:24 pm to
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Maybe it’s because wealthy people for the most part are pretty intelligent and intelligent people normally have kids that are the same way?


Not mutually exclusive. There were some dumb rich kids at CHS.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:29 pm to
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The only high performing poorer students came from immigrant families (usually Asian). Wealthier kids tended to have a better work ethic and parental support. I dont know what socioeconomic factors cause this but it's a fact.

Well, I’ll tell you what socio-economic factors caused it - and they’re the same that caused the Asian students to do well - two parent households who are committed to their kids’ education. It has nothing to do with privilege or wealth - just parents who care. My wife and I were slightly below middle class when our kids were in grammar school, but each of our four kids were in the top three of their class. But we worked with them every night, so I don’t want to hear this privileged stuff.
Posted by jac1280
Member since Dec 2007
5380 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:37 pm to
Every public high school junior in the state of Louisiana is taking the ACT for free on March 17th this year. Some seniors get to take it again for free as well. This has gone on for a few school years now every March.

As a high school math teacher at a very good public school, it is absurd that the state is forcing some of these kids to take the ACT. I have administered and proctored many of these tests and there are usually 2-3 kids in every classroom who just sleep the whole time and at the 10 minute mark, wake up and fill in bubbles. Then take into account the number of students who don’t give a shite because their parent or guardian(yes singular) doesn’t give a shite.

Talk about making your school average plummet.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51453 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:41 pm to
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it is absurd that the state is forcing some of these kids to take the ACT

Agreed. I'm sure the original intentions were good but some of these kids will never pursue a secondary education. Making them take the test is pointless.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57793 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 8:51 pm to
Ah, it changed the year after I graduated
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