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re: Is Childhood Hunger in America Really A Problem?

Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:04 pm to
This always makes me think of The Giver where one of Jonas' classmates is chastized for saying he's starving instead of hungry.

I'm sure we have starving kids in America. Sickos are dug up by all the time for abusing their kids in dungeons.

But we have so many safety net programs that any kid that's actually being raised in society will encounter a govt program from the school, state, or feds that will put food in their bellies, if it's properly used.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Yes, but that's a parenting problem not a hunger problem. There is literally nothing that can be done to address that issue outside of removing the children from the parents.


The saddest thing about this is that there's a catch-22 here. You want to help these children who have crappy parents. But in helping the children you're actually encouraging the parents to continue being negligent.

A certain political party is perfectly fine with this model. Because many of these children who go through life with government support will end up having their own children whom they also neglect. And these families will continue voting for people who want to maintain their government funded lifestyle.
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:06 pm to
Leave to to a piece of shite like Pecker to question childhood hunger. Who cares what the actually numbers are, it is out there. I guarantee you have never gotten off of your high horse and been to an impoverished area in the US or another country.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44173 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:08 pm to
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Who cares what the actually numbers are, it is out there.


Oh look, an emotional response with zero reasoning or context.

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I guarantee you have never gotten off of your high horse and been to an impoverished area in the US or another country.




The fact you equate "impoverished" in this country with other countries tells me all I need to know.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:09 pm to
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Leave to to a piece of shite like Pecker to question childhood hunger. Who cares what the actually numbers are, it is out there.


How dare you ask questions. How dare you! What a piece of shite you are, Pecker. You go straight to hell, sir.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 1:10 pm
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1798 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:09 pm to
Bunch of privileged a-holes in this thread arguing that children should go hungry because they have crappy parents. Ignore the myriad reasons that a person may be in poverty, focus on addicts as if they don't exist in the suburbs, focus on grocery stores like every neighborhood has one, focus on televisions as if everyone has purchased one, focus on school lunch programs as if everyone qualifies.

I know adults with no children that skip meals to make it week to week on their paychecks, and some of ya'll don't believe that children with no income of their own sometimes go to bed hungry. You are a shame to humanity and a shame to the God that you guys claim to follow.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44173 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:11 pm to
Look, more emotionally-driven verbal diarrhea.

Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7037 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:12 pm to
Poverty and hunger in America are myths. Our poor people are fat and have iphones.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:12 pm to
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Bunch of privileged a-holes in this thread arguing that children should go hungry because they have crappy parents.


These types of posts are why I do what I do. It's a beautiful thing.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1798 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:13 pm to
Sorry if my personal experience as one of these children makes my post seem emotional.

I guess it's easier to be emotionally distant if you've never known someone in the condition. Go back to your callousness. Thanks.
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1783 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:15 pm to
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Because many of these children who go through life with government support will end up having their own children whom they also neglect.

This effect throws off the whole principal of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. If the gov just carte blance takes care of #1 and #2 then human nature (#3 coming naturally) will naturally jump to #4 for the weak minded. This is where we buy TV's and phones and subscriptions to overpriced make-up.

#1 - Physiological needs are obvious; they are the literal requirements for human survival.

#2 - Safety Needs - stability, protection; the individual's safety needs take precedence and dominate behavior.

#3 - Social Needs. involve feelings of belongingness. The individual begins to feel the need for friends, family, relationships and a sense of community.

#4 - self-esteem. Esteem presents the normal human desire to be accepted and valued by others.

#5 - Self-actualization. This level of need pertains to what a person's full potential is and realizing that potential.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:15 pm to
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Sorry if my personal experience as one of these children makes my post seem emotional.

I guess it's easier to be emotionally distant if you've never known someone in the condition. Go back to your callousness. Thanks.



Your appeal to emotion doesn't change the facts of the matter. Should we be more emotive? Is that the problem?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44173 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:18 pm to
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I guess it's easier to be emotionally distant if you've never known someone in the condition. Go back to your callousness. Thanks.


I grew up in that condition. As a kid I thought eating cream of wheat for dinner was a treat.

I'm not callous. I just don't let my emotions rule my thinking.

This country does not have a child hunger problem. It has a shitty parent problem. Period.


Posted by LSUWoodworker
St George "God's Country "
Member since Dec 2007
18728 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:18 pm to
shite, this thread reminded me I forgot to feed my dog this morning, she will not be happy with me this afternoon.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73089 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:20 pm to
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Sorry if my personal experience as one of these children makes my post seem emotional.
Your parents are to blame. There is absolutely zero reason why a child cannot get enough food in them. It may not be the kind you like, but it is REMARKABLY CHEAP to meet your biological food needs.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1798 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:20 pm to
How about you learn about the problem instead of depending on your political biases to precariously hold up your crappy opinion on the matter?

I'd be more than happy to answer questions regarding my own personal experience to help you understand the position of the children in these scenarios.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37699 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:20 pm to
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Bunch of privileged a-holes in this thread


privilege seems to follow responsibility. Funny how that works.


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I know adults with no children that skip meals to make it week to week on their paychecks, and some of ya'll don't believe that children with no income of their own sometimes go to bed hungry


Adults skipping meals cause they don't have money seems like the responsible thing to do to me. Or get another job if you can. Kids going to bed hungry is a separate issue and that's up to the parents to correct.
there are ample programs available to get kids and adults food, whether its done through public programs or via private charities.
If you want a grocery store in your neighborhood, then don't shoplift, rob, deal drugs in the parking lot, and steal the shopping carts. Otherwise you'll have to take the bus to get to one where that shite aint chronically occurring.


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focus on televisions as if everyone has purchased one


unfortunately, most homes with "hungry" kids have a color TV. Iphones too. Probably some pricy tennis shoes as well. But don't let that ruin their being "victims"

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You are a shame to humanity and a shame to the God that you guys claim to follow


my charitable contributions say otherwise. My 38% tax rate does too.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:21 pm to
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PCRammer

Bringing the goods
Posted by LSUWoodworker
St George "God's Country "
Member since Dec 2007
18728 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:21 pm to
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Sorry if my personal experience as one of these children makes my post seem emotional.

I guess it's easier to be emotionally distant if you've never known someone in the condition. Go back to your callousness. Thanks.



You are a gump, as Daddy Nick to toss a few bucks to the chirren in ol' bammy
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44173 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:22 pm to
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I'd be more than happy to answer questions regarding my own personal experience to help you understand the position of the children in these scenarios.


Nothing but an appeal to emotion.

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