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re: Iran just targeted our troops in Iraq
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:24 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:24 pm to magildachunks
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That might helped in the Vietnam War. It's doing wonders in Afghanistan. It sure scared the Cubans. Military Might sure did allow the British to keep their empire intact.
Most of the historical powers of the world all collapsed from within. And it starts with assholes like you who scrutinize every move we make instead of getting behind your country and believing we’re doing good in the world. People like you are the reason this country is dividing and eventually fall. I don’t know what to tell you if you think Iran had the same moral motivations that the US does. And don’t go saying “where did I say that” bs.
The United States for the most part does things with the intentions of good.
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:26 pm to bigboinolikeu
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Just some of your bitch posts.
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You done cleaning Trumps a-hole?
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Well, the persians are a long standing civilization thousands of years old. Despite the US being the world's current [waning] superpower, it is still only 500 years old. The persians have enjoyed a luxurious 5000 year histoty and they won't be afraid to mess with "the bull." This is not a fight the U.S. needs or wants.
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True. My point regarding the history lesson is these are a people who would be passionate about their culture, their people, and their land....as any people's have a right to be. This makes them an adversary worth careful consideration before an escalation draws our boys to another unwinnable war...more regime changes...more angry foreigners at the U.S.
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Well, you are talking to history buff. I know everyone laughs it off but we have a lot top learn from history (especially military history) that can guide us going forward.
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PO1, Navy. But yeah lets shite on OUR OWN military know to defend our political beliefs.
Just some of your bitch posts.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:44 pm to bigboinolikeu
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what I found instead was a thread reminding me how little we have learned as a country in the last 25 years.
55 years. We haven't learned shite since Vietnam.
Honestly, 70 years. Eisenhower warned us about allowing the military-industrial government to take over, and we didn't listen.
So...yeah.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:44 pm to bigboinolikeu
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Eh, it just felt like you were implying we should eliminate all Iranians by just slowly bombing them. Sorry if I misunderstood
No problem. You might have more feelings than common sense, so understanding is just kinda hard for you.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:45 pm to ugastreaker
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Just some of your bitch posts.
Do you have any rebukes to his posts?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:48 pm to ugastreaker
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This country didn’t become the best by sitting back and waiting.
Um....
Europe would disagree with you when it comes to both "World Wars".
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:53 pm to ugastreaker
There's a difference between just sitting back and doing what we're doing now. America was doing just fine until the red scare happened and basically warped Ameircan foreign policy forever
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:00 am to OweO
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How about you don't tell me what to do you fricking moron.
My point is.. You really don't know. Sort of like how people thought we had to go in Iraq because everyone was told they had WMD only to find out later the Bush administration was selling the American public & congress on that idea in order to take down Saddam.
And don't give me that bullshite about how Saddam had to be taken out because of the way he treated his citizens because there are a few other countries in which the leader should be taken out because of how it treats its citizens (north Korea for one). It was all about wanting to establish a bigger presence in the middle east. To establish a more democratic government that would be allies with the US.
Presidents distracting the public from other issues is nothing new. And I am not even saying this is the case in this situation. I am simply saying.. If it came out that is what happened, it would not surprise me. But hey.. I am not as simple as you either
Oweo, you get shite on a lot here, but goddammit, you are spot on with this take.
Here's to you
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:04 am to magildachunks
Can I just say: its amusing to me that all the posters in this thread screaming you go "scorched-earth" against Iran are the same posters who loudly proclaim Sherman a war criminal for doing just that to Georgia.
Interesting
Interesting
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:07 am to magildachunks
Same ones that were claiming to be non interventionists. If you claim to want out of the Middle East then you can't do a 180 and say how much you want Iran turned to glass. So basically 95% of PT
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:10 am to magildachunks
It’s only interesting if you can’t see a difference between Georgia and Iran
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:10 am to dawgfan24348
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Same ones that were claiming to be non interventionists. If you claim to want out of the Middle East then you can't do a 180 and say how much you want Iran turned to glass. So basically 95% of PT
If we would have left the middle east, then this shite wouldn't have happened.
That's called irony.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:11 am to biglego
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It’s only interesting if you can’t see a difference between Georgia and Iran
Two enemy nations of the US.
What am I missing?
Outside of we were actually at war with Georgia.
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:43 am to magildachunks
Tehran says they have "Killed 80 "American Terrorists" in their missile strikes.
Let's see what the real number is.
Let's see what the real number is.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:53 am to Miketheseventh
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They held true to their word
And couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
If there were no US casualties, we laugh it off. If they killed Americans, we start hitting the 52 targets one by one.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 7:52 am to ugastreaker
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Some of these people tonight have shown how our education system has failed. You cannot rationalize or reason with a pure dumbass.
Some of these people tonight (you) have shown exactly where our liberal education system has failed. You do not attempt rationalizion nor reason. Your have a rigid one track mind so why would I attempt to reason with you?
I’ve had a discussion laying out my point of view and reasoning. I’ve read and listened to some well thought out differing opinions and respect that thought. Period. I’m capable of civil discourse as I’m not the my way or the highway guy. I’m also nothing more than a regular, taxpaying American citizen so my opinion means no more than yours.
And to be clear you have the ability to not reason or rationize and are allowed to dissent because of among other things, the aggressive foreign policy both militarily and diplomatically of the United States which work to ensure those precious freedoms.You are protected by the very government you despise.
Had you been a citizen of Iran, located within the country you can’t have this discussion nor can you promote a dissenting point of view. If you do you will be hung. If by chance you are gay, they throw you off a building. Not because you dissented but simply because you are gay.
I’m a believer in the carrot and the stick and I’m a believer in my country and I realize the need for a strong military and I realize the need to use said military. I also know the value of the State Department and the value of US diplomats. The two compliment each other and for the most part work well together-at least the best leaders do.
A sovereign nation launched a missle attack on an American military base. That in any sense is an act of war. This wasn’t a terrorist attack nor was a terrorist targeted. This was one nation acting in aggression towards another. If the United States chose to do so they could launch an unfathomable hell on Iran and Iran just gave them the green light to do so.
The proxy wars are over. The movements now are direct between the United States and Iran. You don’t have the stomach for it? Bury your head in the sand or volunteer to work on Elizabeth Warrens campaign to elect the leader you might prefer.
That said...I don’t believe it will go much beyond this and I’m as hopeful as anyone that it can deescalate.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 8:45 am to Miketheseventh
frick Fox News
Posted on 1/8/20 at 8:48 am to Martini
My dos centavos
Iran launches missiles at US base where drones launch out of to show they have the Intel to hit our forces throughout the region. They target areas just outside the base or in areas of the base where no one should be.
This shows US that they COULD hit us if they desired and cause casualties. However they know this would escalate things into a full out attack by U.S. which would annihilate Iranian refineries, nuclear sites and missile bases. This leaves Iran a country with no income, no offensive capabilities that matter and would cause internal strife which likely would destroy the regime from within.
While the Iranian ragheads are generally nuts, they aren't stupid.
So they launch missiles that don't hurt any of our guys, they claim hundreds of American devil's are killed in their retaliation and have the "Save face" measure in response to us killing their POS of a "general/terrorist"
Win-win for everyone involved IMHO
Iran launches missiles at US base where drones launch out of to show they have the Intel to hit our forces throughout the region. They target areas just outside the base or in areas of the base where no one should be.
This shows US that they COULD hit us if they desired and cause casualties. However they know this would escalate things into a full out attack by U.S. which would annihilate Iranian refineries, nuclear sites and missile bases. This leaves Iran a country with no income, no offensive capabilities that matter and would cause internal strife which likely would destroy the regime from within.
While the Iranian ragheads are generally nuts, they aren't stupid.
So they launch missiles that don't hurt any of our guys, they claim hundreds of American devil's are killed in their retaliation and have the "Save face" measure in response to us killing their POS of a "general/terrorist"
Win-win for everyone involved IMHO
Posted on 1/8/20 at 8:52 am to AUTimbo
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:21 am to Miketheseventh
A lot of tough guys in this thread. It’s easy too talk tough behind a keyboard. Bring the troops home. It’s been too much blood shed already. I’m sickened by all the bravado in this thread. We can’t win this war. It’s pointless to even be over there.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 11:40 am
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