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Interesting stats on how CV19 doesn't affect kids.

Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:28 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:28 pm
Thought I would dive into a rabbit hole and see how this thing affects kids. It's rather interesting. The CDC said only 1.7% of the cases are under the age of 18. The CDC examined data in 14 states and said the hospitalization rate was only 0.3% for children.

Looking at some states seems to bear that out. Take a look.

Louisiana
Cases: 342
Deaths: 1
% of Cases: 1.25%
% of Deaths: 0%

Florida
Cases 0-15 years: 514
Hospitalizations: 16
Deaths: 0
% of Hospitalizations: 2%
% of Cases: 2%
% of Deaths: 0

Good ole Mississippi
Cases: 197
Hospitalizations: 8
Deaths: 0
% of overall cases: 3%
% of Deaths: 0
% of Hospitalizations: 0.7%

Michigan
Cases: 2%
Deaths: 0%

Texas
189 cases
0 Deaths
% of Cases: 3.7%

Then there is Italy. Believe it or not, children fared fairley well in Italy.
Cases: 1.8%
Deaths: 0.1%

The CDC said in a report that examined data through April 2:
2,572 (1.7%) occurred in children aged <18 years

So......

when do we quit freaking out about kids playing together? Better yet, when do we start discussing ways to put them back in school?



Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:30 pm to
Is the Louisiana death the premature baby that tested negative?
I’ve read conflicting stories on how it would be counted
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:31 pm to
These illnesses are odd. The Spanish flu only attacked healthy people.
Posted by lsu xman
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:32 pm to
The one death in LA was a 20week preterm baby who mom had covid. The baby did not have covid
Posted by YawBaw7
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:32 pm to
Thymus baw
Posted by crewdepoo
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:34 pm to
There’s early studies out there that suggest it may be causing something else in kids. Saw in the news today.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:34 pm to
All this talk about protecting the children.

Frankly, the stats make you wonder if the children need protecting.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:34 pm to
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when do we quit freaking out about kids playing together? Better yet, when do we start discussing ways to put them back in school?


You know the risk isn't just the kids health right? It's about the spread.

I'm not saying we shouldn't open back up, I'm just correcting your horrible logic.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:34 pm to
What if they are poor vectors and don't really carry the disease?

Dr. Osterholm says put them back in school.
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 10:35 pm
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:35 pm to
That's something else entirely. Is it even factual?
Posted by FairhopeTider
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:35 pm to
My God could you imagine the Karens if this virus affected kids? We’d all be under house arrest.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:36 pm to
The entire point of kids being "socially distanced" is the idea that they can be infected just as readily and spread it around.

So, a school could mean not one kid gets sick and dies but tons of them spread it around and bring it back home to all their families.


Perhaps that's not true but it's different stats than what you post which would show it.

To convince people about school's re-opening, we don't need opinions but high volume tests of kids to possibly reveal something like this:

For example: "5K kids that were in households with Covid+ person were tested and only 4% tested positive as non-symptomatic carriers. "


This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 10:44 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:37 pm to
Kids are vectors for the parents and grandparents.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

Interesting stats on how CV19 doesn't affect kids


It’s not about protecting the kids

It’s about controlling the spread

Why aren’t people grasping this yet?
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

My God could you imagine the Karens if this virus affected kids? We’d all be under house arrest

If this virus affected kids like the elderly there would be way more Karens. And for good reason
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

All this talk about protecting the children


I thought it was protecting the elderly & compromised people the kids came in contact sign

Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:41 pm to
Have they started doing antibody studies on kids? I bet they are walking around spreading it with no symptoms
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:42 pm to
Are they?

Has anyone proven they are vectors for older people?

The Swiss are reopening their schools. Their expert, Dr. Daniel Koch, says the kids are bad vectors for the disease as their immune systems are so robust.
Posted by wm72
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:47 pm to
Perhaps that's not true but it's very different stats than what you post which would show it.

To convince enough people about school's re-opening, we don't need opinions but actual high volume tests of kids to possibly reveal something like this:

For example: "5K kids that were in households with Covid+ person were tested and only 4% tested positive as non-symptomatic carriers. "

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 10:49 pm to
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The CDC said in a report that examined data through April 2:
2,572 (1.7%) occurred in children aged <18 years
According to the CDC, during the 2017-2018 flu season, one of the worst in decades (over 61,000 deaths), there were 11,190,943 symptomatic infections and 643 deaths for those under 18.

So that is 1 death per 17,404 symptomatic infections in one of the deadly flu seasons in decades, 40% more deadly than the average flu season fatality rate estimate (0.14% vs. 0.1%).

Since NYC has detailed information regarding cases and deaths as well as the most reliable study on antibodies (to estimate the true number of infections). We know that they’ve had 5 deaths under 18 out of 3,555 cases, or 1 1 out of every 711 cases.

Since the antibody study indicates that the infections rate (24.7%) is about 13.16 times the case totals (1.88%), that extrapolates to about 46,768 infections for those under 18, or 1 out of 9,354 infections.

And considering that schools have been closed, which limits the primary vector for spread amongst that group, particularly the truly vulnerable (e.g., compromised immune system) my guess is that those under 18 are probably far less likely to have gotten infected than those 18 + (say 25 to 50 percent), which puts their fatalities at 1 out of every 2,338 to 4,677, which 3.7 to 7.4 times more deadly than the one of the most deadly flu season in decades, and 5 to 10 more deadly than the average seasonal flu.
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 10:52 pm
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