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Interesting article on COVID

Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:43 am
Posted by 4evrlsu
Death Valley
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:43 am

LINK

I know, I know ...it’s long. Would love to hear what some of the OT docs think about it.

Cliff notes: vents may do more harm than good in some cases
Posted by saint tiger225
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:46 am to
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Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story. 
Yea, I'll pass on wasting my time on that.

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Cliff notes: vents may do more harm than good in some cases
It's not like they're putting people on vents who are healthy. You go on them when you can't breathe for yourself because your lungs are in such bad condition. That conclusion is dumb as shite.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:50 am to
HCQ can kill you!!!
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:51 am to
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It's not like they're putting people on vents who are healthy. You go on them when you can't breathe for yourself because your lungs are in such bad condition. That conclusion is dumb as shite.


Looks like someone didn't read any of the article, STFU retard
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:51 am to
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That conclusion is dumb as shite.



Actually I was talking to a very experienced surgeon who says the thinking is becoming just that, vents are doing more harm than good.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:52 am to
Wow we better shut some more stuff down!
Posted by 4evrlsu
Death Valley
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:04 am to
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Actually I was talking to a very experienced surgeon who says the thinking is becoming just that, vents are doing more harm than good.


And this is a theory as to why that may be the case. If so, could drastically change outcomes. It may not have any validity, but I found it interesting.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:12 am to
I admitted that much bc it's a bullshite opinion article that they admit isn't checked.
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:16 am to
We got to stop spreading everyone's opinion posted on every fake news page like this BS. So much wrong from a medical verbiage standpoint I don't even know where to start. NO....just no STOP
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:22 am to
A good OP would include a number of selected quotes from the liked article that the OP finds interesting.
Posted by 4evrlsu
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:25 am to
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A good OP would include a number of selected quotes from the liked article that the OP finds interesting


Maybe I found the entire article interesting? Feel free to scroll past. I don’t gaf.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:28 am to
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 that they admit isn't checked


Like the projections of millions dying that are updated hourly? No one really has a clue, quit acting like some do.

The theory virus attaches to the hemes, so it's not even a lung issue at first. The ventilator isn't doing anything
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:29 am to
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Maybe I found the entire article interesting? Feel free to scroll past. I don’t gaf.


If they had the IQ to read it I doubt they could understand it, it's all about muh ventilator and muh no clinical trials
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:34 am to
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Cliff notes: vents may do more harm than good in some cases



That's a very stupid article if it can be summed up with that statement.



I read the first 5ish paragraphs and skimmed the rest and can conclude that the summary, which I thought was stupid, is smarter-sounding than the article.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 7:41 am
Posted by saint tiger225
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Member since Jan 2011
49207 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 7:48 am to
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The theory virus attaches to the hemes, so it's not even a lung issue at first. The ventilator isn't doing anything
I agree, which is why I think the ventilators shouldn't be used unless it's absolutely necessary.
Posted by wm72
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:05 am to
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A good OP would include a number of selected quotes from the liked article that the OP finds interesting



I can almost guarantee it includes a quote like this"

"I'm not a doctor, but. . . "

and, probably even closer to the end as well.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:09 am to
Didn’t the doc that did a Q & A last week on here say, “do everything possible to NOT get on a bent?”
Posted by pngtiger
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:17 am to
It’s an interesting theory. He does a decent job of describing the virus abd vent, and hemoglobin. But did a terrible job describing the drug. And that’s not the mechanism by which we think it works.

However, this virus is something we’ve never seen before. Meaning it’s causing the medical community to rethink how we handle diseases. It’s causing things we wouldn’t expect.

And because of that premise, thinking “outside the box” is what we need. We do know it binds the beta 1 heme chain. Whether that causes disassociation, with resulting hypoxia, who knows. Something we need to study
Posted by EhSeeJay
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
413 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 8:33 am to
For anyone who wants a paper from a scientific journal which more or less says the same as the link in the OP go Here

Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:00 am to
This is so last week it isn't even funny.

Plus who is this douchebag who authored the blog?

Not saying he's wrong but this vents bad, Hydrox good thing has been going around for the past two weeks for real yo. Just don't want to hear it the tenth time from a hack blogger for Jezebel with absolutely no medical credentials.

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