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re: Insurance Question (Homeowners)

Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:36 pm to
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:36 pm to
As mentioned before they can only have a limited list. It is impossible for them to create and exhaustive list of possible exclusions. Do not rely on that. This is why there will often be clause(s) in the guidelines giving them some discretionary power on issues of liability

Very simple to just make a call to your agent and let them get direct confirmation from underwriting
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 10:45 pm
Posted by tigersbb
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

No one gets hurt by a batting cage (swimming pools and trampolines can kill you). Injuries in a batting cage require someone throwing a baseball and/or someone hitting a baseball. Those injuries can be just as frequent without the cage.


A player at Loranger High died about ten years ago in a batting cage accident. He and another player had returned to the field after practice ended and were getting in some extra hitting. The player pitching was struck in the head by a line drive despite there being a protective screen present. The coaches were not present as the players had been dismissed as practice had ended. So if they expect other players to be using the cage it would be wise to confirm coverage or get an umbrella policy.
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:40 pm to
Acquired by lighthouse yes, still working under Excalibur brand and guidelines as of now. It will be a subsidiary of lighthouse. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the inspection grip loosened soon.

I expect the rollout of changes will take a few months
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 10:44 pm
Posted by Tiger Prawn
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:50 pm to
I had a major issue with them very early on and decided not to do business through them again. Later I’d heard that they were encouraging agents to load up policies with every discount under the sun, even if the insured or property shouldn’t have qualified for it, so they’d beat everyone else’s premium. Like they were giving a big FU to their own actuaries. Not surprising they went under.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:55 pm to
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So if they expect other players to be using the cage it would be wise to confirm coverage or get an umbrella policy.


1) I recommend emailing the question to get a documented response.

2) every state is different. Vague language usually benefits the insured in state law (the insurance company writes the contract. It is up to them to address policy usage specifically.
Vagueness benefits the one accepting the contract. And that benefit would usually result in a policy change endorsed state wide on renewals by the insurance company).

3) liability requires negligence. There is an inherent risk in a batting cage. And participation is voluntary. I agree with strong liability protection. But the pitcher would need an amazing attorney to prove negligence when the pitcher voluntarily throws the pitch to a batter standing to drive the pitch in the direction that it came from.
Posted by CMBears1259
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:57 pm to
Short answer: Ask the carrier a hypothetical question to see what they say. What kind of policy do you have?

Might affect your liability coverage. I doubt it would affect the property premiums. It may be covered as an “other structure”.
Posted by ThePoo
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:59 pm to
The discount loading definitely ended about a year, year and a half or so ago

Think they found their exposure becoming a bit more saturated than they’d like. Pulled back on discounts, became pickier on inspections . Pretty much a 180 on approach from the first year, year and a half, which creates its own problems obviously
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 11:01 pm
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:27 am to
Call your insurance company. Pretty easy way to find out.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:25 am to
Every company out the gate is aggressive as shite then slows down ugly after.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 6:25 am
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