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re: Inheritance question

Posted on 7/17/23 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/17/23 at 8:31 pm to
Half to the living brother.
Half to the child of the deceased brother.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8530 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 8:48 pm to
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One living brother


quote:

One deceased brother with one kid


I don’t believe the widow is entitled to anything since it was/would have been the deceased brother’s separate property, but she might be entitled to a usufruct. I can double check tomorrow
Posted by miab777
Member since Aug 2012
353 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:00 pm to
No...brother's wife
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5942 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:47 pm to
used to be called usufruct, use and habitation. nice phrase!
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8530 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:51 pm to
Still called that in legal terms- I’m in O&G so we see it all the time in Louisiana Law- I guess I assumed that’s where the situation was.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37681 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:54 pm to
Probate City. Plain and simple.

Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5942 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 10:29 pm to
So I did retain something after 60 hours of Loyola night law school. LSU Chem E degree paid off much better.
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
2915 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 4:56 pm to
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used to be called usufruct


I see the term usufruct comes up a lot now that I'm getting to the age where people are starting to pass. Is that a Louisiana/Civil Law term or is it common to the rest of the country?

I have been told that if you live in Louisiana, the simplest will you can do is to just leave your estate to your children, subject to an unrestricted usufruct to your spouse. My question is why wouldn't you just pass the full ownership of your estate to your spouse? Is doing the usufruct simply a means to ensure your children get your property too in the event that your spouse remarries?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27451 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:04 pm to
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One living brother who is married with 3 kids
One deceased brother with a living widow and 1 kid


I've known a family who basically decided... Whoever deals with the bullshite gets the stuff.

I'm actually quite worried that when my father dies I'll be included.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16477 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:07 pm to
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Is doing the usufruct simply a means to ensure your children get your property too in the event that your spouse remarries?


That and it protects the children from if the surviving spouse decided to sell all the assets and give them to her sister or whatever and leave the kids out. Usufruct wouldnt allow the surviving spouse to sell anything, only “use” it. IE live in the house.

Granted, I’m not an attorney, and usufruct is more complex than my simple example.
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 5:08 pm
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8530 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:18 pm to
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usufruct


Literally means ‘use and fruits’

Ex: proceeds from oil & gas leases, farm leases/rents, rental properties, etc. It’s a protection for all parties, knowing that the kids can’t sell property out from under the surviving spouse and Vice versa. The kids are known as ‘Naked Owners’ or Usufructuaries. Most of the rest of the country uses a ‘Life Estate’ which serves mostly the same purpose, but is English Common Law, not Napoleonic Code.
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