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re: I'm taking legal action against the Office of Motor Vehicles

Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30232 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:58 pm to
A lot of judges base a lot of their decisions on the law of common sense be that right, wrong, or indifferent.

But maybe you are right.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58180 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:01 pm to
“A key statute that requires the disclosure of social security numbers is the Social Security Act (SSA), which expressly permits a state agency to use social security numbers for the purpose of identifying individuals “in the administration of any tax, general public assistance, driver’s license, or motor vehicle registration law within its jurisdiction,” see 42 U.S.C. § 405(c)(2)(C)(i) (2018).”

From:
Office of Privacy and Civil Liberties

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

of judges base a lot of their decisions on the law of common sense be that right, wrong, or indifferent.

What’s the common sense here you’re referencing?
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
13008 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:01 pm to
strong work grt
Posted by Bro Montana
Member since Aug 2009
1008 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:02 pm to


I bet you’ve got one of these license plates too.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30232 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:02 pm to
That people need SSNs for other stuff (like getting a job)…..so just get the SSN.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58180 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:03 pm to
Thx NDT

Maybe there was something I missed, perhaps it can be interpreted differently.

Ftr I am not a lawyer
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2757 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

You sound like the person who complains about everything in life and sue’s everyone for everything to sustain living…


I don't complain about anything actually. My life is awesome. I've never filed a lawsuit in my life.

What I am is a man of principle and a veteran. As an American, I have the right of self determination. If my son chooses to get a social security number he can do that. I have one. But, I'm not going to do it for him, that is his choice. Me giving him his choice also means I can't deduct him from my taxes. If that's what it costs, so be it.

You may see this as pointless and futile. That's ok. I see it as an obligation as an American to preserve the rights we were given, no matter how small and pointless folks like yourself may think that is.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30232 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:05 pm to
I do respect that stance even though I’m not sure I agree with it in this instance.
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
13008 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

You may see this as pointless and futile.
i dont

it is your right as a father

good luck with your case

Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13585 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:06 pm to
quote:


You actually found a lawyer to take this case?

His name is SFP. He's on the case. He'll show up in court... with receipts. The OP will be in good hands.


Also... the OP is a dumbass.
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 11:16 pm
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58417 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:06 pm to
A Louisiana DMV is easily one of the worst places on the planet.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
6252 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:06 pm to
Well after explaining your position you seem reasonable but is the juice worth the squeeze, and maybe to you it is. Good luck Mon Frere
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2757 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

“A key statute that requires the disclosure of social security numbers is the Social Security Act (SSA), which expressly permits a state agency to use social security numbers for the purpose of identifying individuals “in the administration of any tax, general public assistance, driver’s license, or motor vehicle registration law within its jurisdiction,” see 42 U.S.C. § 405(c)(2)(C)(i) (2018).”

From:
Office of Privacy and Civil Liberties

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer


GRT, you are 100% correct. If you HAVE a social security number you HAVE to disclose it. That said, if you don't have one, this doesn't apply to you.
Posted by TheBoogeyman
Covington
Member since Apr 2020
325 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:07 pm to
You must be a blast at parties
Posted by RoadToLIsPaviad
Texas
Member since Nov 2024
35 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:09 pm to
Did you get the required letter from the SSA that says why you son doesn't have an SSN? That could be what you are missing.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2757 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

I bet you’ve got one of these license plates too.


Nope, I'm 100% in compliance with everything that you are. All of my automobiles have all the required registrations and insurance.
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
1874 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:10 pm to
Are illegal aliens (yeah, I said it) eligible to receive any licenses, benefits, or employment without having an SS number?

I'm eagerly awaiting an answer on this.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2757 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

Did you get the required letter from the SSA that says why you son doesn't have an SSN? That could be what you are missing.


The requirement to provide that letter is only for Alien individuals.

Other states have a provision for this for US citizens. They have an affadavit that you have to fill out. When you get a passport without a social security number you have to provide an affadavit to this effect.

I offered to do that for the DMV and they said no.
Posted by RoadToLIsPaviad
Texas
Member since Nov 2024
35 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

Other states have a provision for this for US citizens.


All well and good but you're not trying to get a license from those states now are you?
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