re: Illegal immigrants and work quality

The white crews all day trade meme coins now.

Couldn’t help making an alternate route.

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We had our exterior siding replaced over the summer. The migrant crew our contractor used to do the sills cut the joists under the floor of our back hallway, without first supporting them. The hallway collapsed. Still dealing with this.

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Our roof and Hardie siding was destroyed during Helene last year. Insurance adjusters and contractors were completely incompetent...started off with $8000 worth of damage and by the time the 5th adjuster left the house it was up to $47,000. We did not know it but apparently we had several other hurricanes pass through in those 5 weeks and did a whole lot more damage than what was done when the first adjuster came out. Got a price from a reputable local contractor for $43K to do everything...and then they started in with the upselling. I told them ALL I was interested in was exactly what we had before the storm....they then started talking about repairing this and repairing that....when replacing is what was required. Finally got a scope of work with them under contract and they were 3 weeks out. 5 weeks later they were still 3 weeks out. At 8 weeks they hadn't shown up yet so I called them and told them I was no longer interested. They started in with the threats of legal action which they soon realized meant nothing to me. I talked to one crew of roofers working on another house in the neighborhood and asked if they were interested in making some cash....they were, of course.

They removed the old roof, put it in my dump trailer, replaced underlayment, shingles, all flashing and pipe curbs and ridge for $4000 cash on top of the $8500 I had in material - just under 5000 square foot house with mostly a 6/12 pitch, 2 story. They removed all the siding and trim, reinstalled and painted the entire house, one coat of primer and 2 coats of top coat and it looks better than it did when it was new...2 of them spent nearly 2 weeks caulking before they painted, this is a DB Horton home when it was originally built there may have been 2 tubes of caulk used. I paid them $6000 cash to do the siding and the material cost me just under $10,000 and I had enough left over to redo a 10X12 storage shed myself. All in, with new fixtures I installed myself I did what Allstate said was $47,000 worth of repairs for about $30K. Best price we got from a reputable local contractor was $13K more than I got it done for....and as it turned out the siding crew was the exact same crew they would have used LOL. They did a fantastic job but I knew what needed to be done and how it had to be done....If I had the time and was willing to do it I could have done it myself with one person helping but it would have taken a LONG time with a full time job. There is an advantage to using immigrant labor, especially when it is exactly the same crew the contractor who was too busy to do the work was going to use. If you don't know how and what has to be done though you are going to get fricked. If you simply want the roof replaced and have no idea what that actually means you have no business doing it yourself or acting as the GC and hiring a crew to do it yourself.

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The immigrant crew was being supervised by someone who knew how the work should be done. That person became heat-stressed, and left for ten minutes to cool off. The crew cut the floor joists while he was away.

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This is an issue with immigrant crews...someone has to know what needs to be done and how it needs to be done or they are going to frick up. Usually they will simply do nothing when the boss is away but if they do continue to work they are highly likely to frick something up.

Thanks Jack!

Nothing says ‘true patriot’ like preaching economic purity from behind a keyboard or a phone that literally says ‘Made in China’ on the back.

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My problem is that you baws act like y'all such patriots yet y'all want illegals to do work for you for a cheap of a price you can get

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The construction industry has been begging for workers and cant fill the jobs. Structurally we are at full employment, where are these workers coming from and why arent they filled now with white/black patriots?

Your own government has created the situation where regulatory and labor costs have priced Americans out of global markets, and you want to blame developing countries with poor people. The issue is us, not them.

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Illegal immigrants and work quality

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Quality of work from American workers sucks too. You have to bitch and moan just to get what you pay for, which I'm happy to do.