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re: Ignorant BR PD Officer w/ FBI
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:05 pm to RealityTiger
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:05 pm to RealityTiger
quote:
Well it's weird
quote:unfortunately, being weird isn't enough by itself.
there's your reasonable suspicion by the way
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:06 pm to RealityTiger
Did they ultimately get his name?
If so, welcome to being databased, tard.
If so, welcome to being databased, tard.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:06 pm to Russ337
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Don’t get me wrong the guy looks like a normal big headed cop. But, what do you think Should Legally happen is you film a federal building lol..
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:08 pm to Meauxjeaux
quote:Yes. After telling the guy he wasn't being detained, the guy said he was leaving. The officer then grabbed him, made him place his hands on the hood of the officers truck and took his wallet out off his back pocket to take down the info from his id.
Did they ultimately get his name?
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:10 pm to TSLG
Does he post the videos where they come up, ask him what he's doing and why, and leave after he explains?
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:11 pm to novabill
I absolutely support the rights. I believe in the constitution and all its amendments.
I just don't buy this shite of it being "liberty" to be obstinate when asked to present your ID when there's nothing to hide in the first place. And yes, that is an ego trip. I'm glad we're on the same page about that.
I just don't buy this shite of it being "liberty" to be obstinate when asked to present your ID when there's nothing to hide in the first place. And yes, that is an ego trip. I'm glad we're on the same page about that.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:13 pm to novabill
The dude was standing in front of the FBI building shooting a video on a camera. How does this not resonate in some of your minds that this would raise suspicion?
Who's to say he's not scoping out a bombing or going in there on a shootout? How the frick are they supposed to initially know what this guy is up to?
Who's to say he's not scoping out a bombing or going in there on a shootout? How the frick are they supposed to initially know what this guy is up to?
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:18 pm to PearlJam
Being "weird" is what sparks the thought of investigation on anything or anybody. Spotting something out of the ordinary is what starts the ball rolling on any investigation. Hell, that's what you look for in basic troubleshooting 101 skills on anything, something being out of the ordinary.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:18 pm to PearlJam
You’re missing everybody’s point, nobody is saying this. I think you’re arguing for the sake of arguing.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:22 pm to novabill
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With this logic, any activity could be construed by a motivated officer as being reasonably suspicious.
Within the totality of the circumstances, yes. By their very nature, activities that are reasonably suspicious are legal because if they weren’t, there would be no need for the standard because you would already have probable cause.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:22 pm to RealityTiger
Sure, but it isn't constitutionally enough for a Terry stop, by itself. There are other means of investigation if something creates some concern.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:24 pm to PearlJam
Nice, you took my response out of context and didn’t fully quote my sentence.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:25 pm to cyarrr
quote:I went back and checked. You are right. I didn't give your comment full context. My apologies.
Nice, you took my response out of context and didn’t fully quote my sentence.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:26 pm to PearlJam
quote:
I went back and checked. You are right. I didn't give your comment fill context. My apologies.
objection sustained
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:31 pm to PearlJam
Apology accepted
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:32 pm to BobABooey
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Google Maps, Mapquest, etc seem to get away with it. Call law enforcement and report those suspicious orgs.
You mean the organization with large, distinct logos on their vehicles and IDs outwardly visible on their employees?
Also, I’m sure the guy working for Google explains that he is working for Google when a cop asks him why he is filming federal buildings and doesn’t say, “it’s my personal use.”
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:32 pm to novabill
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Did the cop obey/follow the law? It is a easy simple question. He did not.
I stopped watching his dumb little video about 10 seconds in once I realized he was shooting video of a FEDERAL building. Suspicious activity IS taking pics / video of a federal building and IS grounds to question someone. Some Fed buildings have signs stating NO PICS, NO VIDEO - for example the FEMA Building in Gulfport MS which is adjacent to the Gulf Coast Coliseum across the rear railroad tracks. If the OP gets bored, tell him to go over there and start shooting video and report back to us his experience. I would LOVE to hear that story!
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:34 pm to TSLG
The guy filming is a prick looking for responses. BUT that detective fricked up. Can’t be a prick and violate the guys rights because he’s a tad bit smarter. Just let the loser take pictures and film.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:36 pm to TSLG
This dude gets off to assessing police response to him taking pics of them. Wtf
Posted on 12/31/18 at 2:36 pm to RealityTiger
quote:
I just don't buy this shite of it being "liberty" to be obstinate when asked to present your ID when there's nothing to hide in the first place. And yes, that is an ego trip. I'm glad we're on the same page about that.
But Liberty is exactly what it is.
If the law enumerates the situations where we are required to comply with LEO request for ID, we are exercising our liberty even if become obstinate in our refusal to comply when we are asked for it and not required to give it.
Do you have issues with the police when the become obstinate in their refusal to answer questions when asked by citizens.
You can bet this cop would have arrested the guy if he had one legal reason to do so. There is no reason for him to give the cop any info to help with that desire.
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