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re: if you're poor stop being poor
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:28 pm to FunroePete
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:28 pm to FunroePete
Ill tell you just like I've told poor black friends. If a homeless kid living in a shelter with his mom can get up every morning and go to school. Then Graduate and get into an ivy, nearly anyone can do enough to graduate and get into trade school or find a steady job. It's all about want and priorities.
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This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 8:37 pm
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Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:39 pm to Wasp
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Ill tell you just like I've told poor black friends. If a homeless kid living in a shelter with his mom can get up every morning and go to school. Then Graduate and get into an ivy, nearly anyone can do enough to graduate and get into trade school or find a steady job. It's all about want and priorities.
Thats quite the anomaly, seriously. There's only a handful of people who have done that.
While I agree that motivation is key, I don't think anyone could argue against efficient education reform. This could lead to more of these success stories
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:40 pm to PurpleNGoldFan
Well, yes, parental money is an indicator of personal wealth.
But not for the reasons you want to imply (that they already have money just handed to them).
But they did inherit money management skills and values.
People who are born in poverty that spend their entire lives in it simply continue the mistakes of their parents.
But not for the reasons you want to imply (that they already have money just handed to them).
But they did inherit money management skills and values.
People who are born in poverty that spend their entire lives in it simply continue the mistakes of their parents.
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:43 pm to danilo
Poor: ON [OFF]
Whew... That was easy.
Whew... That was easy.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:43 pm to FunroePete
The point is that upbringing isn't some kind of insurmountable barrier that you can use as an excuse their entire life.
And attempting to deflect doesn't help.
True, while that particular example is an anomaly, the fact is someone was able to go from the bottom of the barrel, and climbed to the absolute peak.
So what is the excuse for those who aren't in that low of a situation, nor need to achieve such heights to surpass the financial fortunes they started at.
And attempting to deflect doesn't help.
True, while that particular example is an anomaly, the fact is someone was able to go from the bottom of the barrel, and climbed to the absolute peak.
So what is the excuse for those who aren't in that low of a situation, nor need to achieve such heights to surpass the financial fortunes they started at.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:47 pm to FunroePete
All I'm saying is, take a little pride in your school work. Go the jumpstart route, in la, stay out of trouble. Use a pel grant or tops. Continue to stay out of trouble. Make a few good decisions. Bam.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:48 pm to FunroePete
Did you know in EBR you can qualify for up $20-40k towards a down payment on a house.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:51 pm to FunroePete
I've seen plenty of people pick themselves out of the gutter. I endorse that behavior with a quickness. I'm not big on huge sweeping generalizations, but I 100% believe people start playing the victim and lose self respect after a while, which dooms them.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:55 pm to Volvagia
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So what is the excuse for those who aren't in that low of a situation, nor need to achieve such heights to surpass the financial fortunes they started at.
Look, I can't solve the growing homeless,jobless or poverty rate. I already addressed that welfare needs to be revamped.I can't aspire everyone in the world to be successful.
All I'm saying is that if you improve education efficiency, in my mind there's a really high chance more poor people become successful.
It's a number game not a individual game.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:56 pm to Wasp
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Did you know in EBR you can qualify for up $20-40k towards a down payment on a house.
that's neat
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:56 pm to FunroePete
Are you saying these people don't know sex produces a baby? Or that smoking is bad?
They know, they just don't care. Uncle Sam gonna handle their problems.
They know, they just don't care. Uncle Sam gonna handle their problems.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 8:59 pm to anc
You forgot, save your money.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:01 pm to tLSU
It's just people not taking responsibility for their situation. Blame everyone else especially the government.
Leads to more poor decisions
Leads to more poor decisions
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:09 pm to tLSU
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Are you saying these people don't know sex produces a baby? Or that smoking is bad?
They know, they just don't care. Uncle Sam gonna handle their problems.
Are you saying these people don't know sex produces a baby?
Seriously?
Or that smoking is bad?
That's interesting and a very complex topic, over 20 percent of the world smokes.
The obvious answer that you already knew before you posted, is that sex and health education reduce numbers of teen pregnancies and smokers.
"Uncle Sam gonna handle their problems"
Look I get it, the government is corrupt as shite and has a giant welfare system that gets abused.They created a large dependent group of people.
Do you know how deeply intricate each unique problem is? How each thing effects the other?
Instead of blasting them and saying how bad the poor are because they cheat the government, how about thinking of ways to fix it?
I feel that the best way to improve a situation, is not to ignore it and bastardize it but to think of a beneficial solution.
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:12 pm to FunroePete
A little chlorine in the gene pool is the best solution.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:15 pm to FunroePete
I don't think anyone is saying we shouldn't fix the education system or the welfare system but we are saying it isn't the scapegoat it's made out to be.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:17 pm to Wasp
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I don't think anyone is saying we shouldn't fix the education system or the welfare system but we are saying it isn't the scapegoat it's made out to be.
then what is?
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:17 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I completely understand all the points, especially not having a kid and going to college, but not smoking?? I mean, who's to say you won't quit? How many successful people around the world smoke? Whether you're a pack a day or a social smoker, is it really going to affect your bottom line in life??
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:17 pm to FunroePete
I wish I could find it, but a quick search didn't yield anything.
I read a story one time about this giy who was in prison for life for repeated crime. He couldn't read, he couldn't get steady jobs, so he turned to crime.
He decided that since he was in prison for life, he had all the time in the world, so he starting learning to read. He eventually worked his way up to reading the sports section of the newspaper. Sometimes the sports section wasn't available, so he started reading the business section.
The guy started learning the ins and outs of how the stock market worked, and has done pretty well. He has taught some of his fellow inmates about investing, and he has to describe it as "how white people make money."
It was a fascinating story, but that last line got me. There is no education about stuff we take for granted in the poor communities. My dad had me owning stock and following it at 12 years old. It was pre-internet, so I had to call a number at 9:00 pm every night to get the closing prices. He was an engineer and had these drafting pads that I kept up with the running stock price on.
The quarterly statement was one of the best times me and dad had. We'd sit down and compare our chart to the brokerage chart.
I read a story one time about this giy who was in prison for life for repeated crime. He couldn't read, he couldn't get steady jobs, so he turned to crime.
He decided that since he was in prison for life, he had all the time in the world, so he starting learning to read. He eventually worked his way up to reading the sports section of the newspaper. Sometimes the sports section wasn't available, so he started reading the business section.
The guy started learning the ins and outs of how the stock market worked, and has done pretty well. He has taught some of his fellow inmates about investing, and he has to describe it as "how white people make money."
It was a fascinating story, but that last line got me. There is no education about stuff we take for granted in the poor communities. My dad had me owning stock and following it at 12 years old. It was pre-internet, so I had to call a number at 9:00 pm every night to get the closing prices. He was an engineer and had these drafting pads that I kept up with the running stock price on.
The quarterly statement was one of the best times me and dad had. We'd sit down and compare our chart to the brokerage chart.
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:24 pm to FunroePete
Determination, choices and sacrifices.
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