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re: If you're into that fake place called space..

Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:29 am to
Posted by Snipe
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:29 am to
Currently our physics does not support the possibility of achieving light speed or surpassing it. I my uneducated language, (because the closer you get to light speed , the energy required increases at a faster pace than you are accelerating towards light speed.) Meaning infinite power would be needed to reach light speed and infinite is well not achievable by humans.

However, there is 1 thing moving faster than light speed. The expansion of the universe, and it is ever increasing in speed.

How? We do not know, but we call it dark energy.

In a few hundred thousand years our night sky will be void of any object outside of our solar system and the knowledge of the big bang and other galaxies could possibly be lost forever.

If there is any earth for people to inhabit and look at the shy and wonder.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:17 am to
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However, there is 1 thing moving faster than light speed. The expansion of the universe, and it is ever increasing in speed.
kinda.

Nothing can move through space faster than the speed of light. But it appears that space itself is expanding thus the universe appears to be expanding faster than the speed of light. As you said, we don’t know why, or how

However…if space can expand, perhaps it can be contracted (folded) where an object in space can exist in two places at one time, instantaneously. That would be the solution to interstellar travel
Posted by BitBuster
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Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:31 am to
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Space is 99.99999999% nothing.


On December 19, 2025, the comet 3I/Atlas flew by Earth at a distance of 170 million miles at approx 135,000mph. A 2026 study estimated the comet as being about 12 billion years old.

Imagine flying around at 135,000mph for 12 billion years and never hitting anything.

That's 14.2 Quintillion miles. (14,200,920,000,000,000,000)
2.41 million light years
Roughly equivalent from traveling from Earth to the Andromeda Galaxy.

I agree. The universe is pretty empty.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:32 am to
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close to faster than light travel


With non zero mass?
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:40 am to
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if space can expand, perhaps it can be contracted (folded)


That's how you get Dune...or Event Horizon.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:44 am to
where we’re going, we won’t need eyes to see
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:49 am to
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where we’re going, we won’t need eyes to see



I've never brought myself to watching that one again. Maybe it won't be as freaky as I remember 30 years later.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:56 am to
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it will only be shell of inactive metal traveling through intergalactic space


"Stardate Log 22094: What the frick did we hit?
!!!

- Captain Kirk, MMXXII, Starfleet Commander
Posted by SantaFe
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 10:05 am to
For thousands of years people said that Man would never fly.

On 12/7/1903 the Wright brothers fly their first airplane.

On 7/20/1969 Neil Armstrong steps on the Moon.

Looking at this curve I believe someone will discover how to cross the vast distances between the stars in a quick fashion. It will be in a method that no one has thought of yet.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:12 pm to
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Sure ya can. You get in a boat and sail to the ice wall and find the exit door.


The exit door is a myth, just like Antarctic. No one knows what is beyond the ice wall.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:55 pm to
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if space can expand, perhaps it can be contracted (folded)


That's purely speculation with no evidence to suggest it's possible. The only thing that supports this is there is no verifiable proof it can not.

Science takes a lot of liberties that would not be accepted in any other area.

Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:59 pm to
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That's purely speculation with no evidence to suggest it's possible. The only thing that supports this is there is no verifiable proof it can not.
it’s a theory dude. That’s why I said “perhaps”

Edit: and for the second time in this thread you’ve assigned the definition of faith to the scientific method

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Science takes a lot of liberties that would not be accepted in any other area.
like what other areas?
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 2:09 pm
Posted by SoDakHawk
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:00 pm to
If the universe is expanding that must mean there is an end to the universe. What's on the other side of the end of the universe? What is the universe expanding into?

Is there a beginning to time? And is there and end to time? And what comes before or after the beginning or end of time?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:12 pm to
The universe is not expanding “into” anything. The universe itself is expanding. There is nothing to expand into

Hopefully that makes sense. It’s hard for the human brain to comprehend and as I’ve said repeatedly we don’t know how this works

As for time, consider space and time to be the same thing…spacetime. We don’t know if there is an end or a beginning
Posted by SoDakHawk
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:28 pm to
If something expands it takes up space. Something occupied that space before the subject expanded into it.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:36 pm to
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If something expands it takes up space
that’s right
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Something occupied that space before the subject expanded into it.
not if the space itself is expanding. There is no “space” outside of “space”. Space is itself and all that there is
Posted by SoDakHawk
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:56 pm to
Ok, so if "space" is expanding, what are is it taking over? Something had to occupy that space prior. Unless it's like hitting a wall. What's on the other side of that wall?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:01 pm to
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Space isn't real cause it's all an electronic projection on the ceiling of Earth, sheeple

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are the stars just pinholes in the curtain of night?
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:20 pm to
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that has to be there to make the math work.
why is that uncomfortable for you? Dark matter and dark energy are placeholders until we figure out, if we ever do, the mechanics of the universe. What we already know is a lot but it is a very small fraction of what is there to be discovered. That’s what science is

We can observe that the laws of physics that are proven here on earth clearly apply everywhere else we look. That implies that the rest of orbital mechanics is also consistent, we just need more information



For centuries, everything we could observe indicated that Newtonian mechanics was the end-all, be all. Then we started figuring out quantum mechanics about a century ago and turned all of that on its head.

The science is never, ever, settled.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1238 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:27 pm to
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Interesting facts.

Voyager 1 launched on Sept. 5th 1977

on Sept. 5th 2026, Voyager 1 will have traveled 0.0027 light years distance from Earth.

Some time on November 2026 Voyager 1 will reach 1 light days distance from Earth .

Roughly around the year 19,026 Voyager 1 will reach 1 light years distance from Earth. (incidentally, the nearest neighbor outside our solar system in Proxima Centauri, a small red dwarf approx. 4.25 light-years away)



What year do the friggin' Klingon thugs take target practice on it - and only wound it like a typical gangsta - before it gets repaired and sent back to us? I seent the documentaries on that......
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