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re: If were going to talk about "mass shootings", then context is important.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:29 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:29 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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The map has no dots in Alabama so they missed the professor who shot up a department meeting. They also included shootings with fewer than four fatalities in their excel sheet even though that was supposed to be the threshold.
The CNN link I posted includes a threshold of 4 killings or more, not 3.
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:29 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Is six rampage killings per year enough to justify placing some sort of limit on the 2nd amendment?
No. It’s already heavily regulated as it is.
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Are these unpredictable and spontaneous killings simply the price we have to pay to live in a free society?
Yes and no. It’s not always so black and white. I don’t know what the solution is, but more laws is not it. If people can’t respect the basic laws that guard human life, what makes you think they’ll respect gun laws? I’m not now or ever will be interested in passing laws that inhibit personal freedoms in the name of security and make criminals out of otherwise conservative, law abiding citizens.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:31 pm to tduecen
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This is such a sky screamer thread
I'm not sky screaming.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:31 pm to Aristo
No, I don't think you could injur 20+ people and kill 10 in 50 seconds with a 9mm. A 9mm holds about 15 rounds?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I suspect you'd have to be a real good shot to kill 15 people in 15 rounds.
Ultimately I am not here to change your mind.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I suspect you'd have to be a real good shot to kill 15 people in 15 rounds.
Ultimately I am not here to change your mind.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:31 pm to Pandy Fackler
But according to Twitter we've had 250 mass shootings in 2019 alone.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:34 pm to helluvaday
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No, I don't think you could injur 20+ people and kill 10 in 50 seconds with a 9mm.
They do make extended magazines for these.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:34 pm to ProjectP2294
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But according to Twitter we've had 250 mass shootings in 2019 alone
I'm reframing this though. We're not talking about mass killings, that particular phraseology has been abused. We're talking about what these things really are. Rampage killings.
CNN defines it pretty well.
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:35 pm to helluvaday
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No, I don't think you could injur 20+ people and kill 10 in 50 seconds with a 9mm. A 9mm holds about 15 rounds?
17+ in many cases
And yes you could in a small space like a bar.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:35 pm to Pandy Fackler
Ouch using CNN as reference
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:37 pm to helluvaday
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To me it isn't about taking away your guns, it's about limiting the types of guns you have access to. If you need an AK-47 to protect your home, you need to practice your shot. You're not hunting with it either, so why do you want to have the ability to buy an AK-47? How many here actually own one?
Who are you to tell me what I can and can’t use to defend myself? Taking my AK away doesn’t stop some gang banger or maniac to obtain one. People think that just because it’s illegal, it’s hard to get. That is so far from true. Drugs have been illegal for a long time. It takes zero effort to buy drugs. Same thing will happen to guns. The difference is people who used to own guns legally will be forced to surrender them while criminals just won’t give a frick.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:37 pm to helluvaday
quote:A 9mm can hold 100 rounds.
A 9mm holds about 15 rounds?
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:38 pm to Pandy Fackler
Thoughts and prayers.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:39 pm to Geauxtiga
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A 9mm can hold 100 rounds.
I've never shot one of those but it almost seems like it would melt the polymer to me.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:39 pm to Pandy Fackler
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What's wrong with that? There's no agenda in this. Just read it for yourself
Not to get off course, but CNN is heavily biased like any other major media conglomerate.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:40 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Instead of calling these mass shootings, because apparently there are some folks who want to lump turf war type shite into that.
Leftist and the MSM Propaganda networks love to bunch those stats together. It's why they always try to include suicide into gun violence.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:40 pm to Pandy Fackler
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The preservation of our constitutional rights have social consequences.
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:43 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Instead of calling these mass shootings, because apparently there are some folks who want to lump turf war type shite into that. We need to start calling them rampage killings which accurately reflects their true nature. I did a bit of goobling. Since 2017 there have been, I think 16 rampage killings. So over about a two and a half year period, the United states has averaged about six rampage killings per year. So let's chew on that. Is six rampage killings per year enough to justify placing some sort of limit on the 2nd amendment?
I agree with your rampage killings term but the MSM or the people on social media have a agenda and we both know that. The facts are young black men kill other young black men far more than anyone else in the USA, when those killings get 24 hour news coverage and people pretend to actually care about those people I’ll give a shite, until then I don’t. The 2nd amendment isn’t going anywhere and anyone that believes otherwise is lying to themselves.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:43 pm to DeafJam73
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What's wrong with that? There's no agenda in this. Just read it for yourself
Not to get off course, but CNN is heavily biased like any other major media conglomerate.
Fine.
Just read it for yourself. Not everything has a particular bend or agenda.
It's simply a list of rampage killings. That's it. It won't brainwash you.
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 4:44 pm to Dead End
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Leftist and the MSM Propaganda networks love to bunch those stats together. It's why they always try to include suicide into gun violence.
Suicide by gunfire is gun violence.
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