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re: If we don't stand up to the woke movement, our country, our future doesn't look very good
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:58 pm to Lsupimp
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:58 pm to Lsupimp
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In an earlier time we would not have needed to explain the importance of truth, honesty, facts, ethics, fair-play etc. In this era of Progressive Ideological Possession, when half the country is in full MORAL PANIC and we are treated to adults who call themselves "liberal" demanding censorship and State coercion, we really can't take anything for granted. We really DO have to explain to them, as if they are little children, why they actually might not want to completely abandon critical thinking and The Rule of Law in favor of whatever passion they feel on a given day.
I think you're right and it's scary. 5 years ago you could beat back this stuff (I think) with a persuasive left-leaning (American version) liberal speech about tolerance and individual rights and the like. The wife in Field of Dreams always pops into my head. Even left-leaning types would likely go "yeah I mean I think MLK had it right, progress is good, tolerance is good, science is good, etc."
Now, you can go to any college campus and find hundreds if not thousands of students who will likely argue with you about MLK's vision, will claim individual rights are code words meaning white supremacy, etc.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:59 pm to mindbreaker
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No there's people who have different opinions than me
Most rational people do.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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When you become successful, it will drain you.
Taxation is punitive in the progressive world.
my wife and i make about $150k a year combined and I don't mind paying my taxes.
also, i live in orleans parish so i get your points about paying taxes and not receiving services yet other people are receiving services from my tax dollars and not paying taxes themselves. i'm just not that worked up about it. they are poor and I am not so i don't concern myself with how they are living, other than to try to make it better.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:01 pm to Pettifogger
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But the woke/whatever movement is bigger, more powerful, and it has a couple of decades of momentum behind it and increasingly, millions of religious-like adherents. It's a real thing, with genuinely powerful allies and a real threat to everyone in this country.
Yes. The fact that they now have a solid foothold in GOVERNMENT means they've moved well beyond the point of just being a nuisance. That should be worrisome to those who genuinely care about this country.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:02 pm to Pettifogger
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argue with you about MLK's vision
They will insist it was rooted in communism and anti capitalist ideals. Of course then proving anything challenging their ideas as racist.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:03 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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my wife and i make about $150k a year combined and I don't mind paying my taxes.
Would you pay 50%? That's where we are headed.
Good luck raising your kid in that environment.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:05 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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my wife and i make about $150k a year
Subtract the money I pay you in disability.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:06 pm to oleheat
I think something the "this is overblown" people seize upon is the comparison between the gay rights movement and the modern transgender movement. A lot of that probably comes from folks who were in the camp that the gay movement was going to destroy society, etc. and now they feel guilty about it and want to pretend that the same puritanical attitudes exist with regard to those opposing the transgender stuff.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:06 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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They will insist it was rooted in communism and anti capitalist ideals.
It was. However Kind thought marxism was more faulty than capitalism and he borrowed what he felt worked, and shelved the rest.
I believe King had a good motive. I respect the work that he did.
Modern Democrats are more Maoist than Marxist IMO.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:07 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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also, i live in orleans parish so i get your points about paying taxes and not receiving services yet other people are receiving services from my tax dollars and not paying taxes themselves. i'm just not that worked up about it. they are poor and I am not so i don't concern myself with how they are living, other than to try to make it better.
To be clear, if this is the argument it's a shitty one. I don't blame you for not being worked up about it, but it's not exactly a reason why some Americans should work 1/3 or 1/2 of the year for a government that generally opposes their existence.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:07 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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make it better.
What do you do to make their lives better?
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:08 pm to oleheat
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. The fact that they now have a solid foothold in GOVERNMENT means they've moved well beyond the point of just being a nuisance.
There is massive collusion between the architects of the woke movement, corporations and the media.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:08 pm to ApexTiger
stolen elections have consequences
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:09 pm to mindbreaker
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OH No there's people who have different opinions than me so obviously the world is ending.
Yeah. That’s all this is about. You people are hilarious.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:09 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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make it better.
How do you force unproductive people to be productive?
if you're talking about printing and spending money, you are too far gone.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Just wait till they raid his 401(k) or Roth IRA or his kid's 529
Who gives a shite though amirite? Lmao stfu boomer, the Saints are playing!!! We all die anyway, after all.
Who gives a shite though amirite? Lmao stfu boomer, the Saints are playing!!! We all die anyway, after all.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:11 pm to Lou Pai
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Just wait till they raid his 401(k) or Roth IRA or his kid's 529
Absolutely.
The two things I have been adamant about are that they are coming for retirement/investment accounts, and they are coming for your speech.
They have already started chipping away at speech.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:13 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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they are poor
I grew up poor. You don't get people out of poverty by giving them things.
When you let the bottom 20% dictate national policy, you are fricked.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:13 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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All the shite on the internet and TV that you’re so terrified of is theater.
Theatre where city blocks are burned, stores looted, people killed?
Wow.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:15 pm to roadGator
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Theatre where city blocks are burned, stores looted, people killed?
Wow.
Which, ironically, they don't even show on TV very much
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