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Posted on 7/4/18 at 10:46 pm to Sao
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We are trying to help.
You changing the home owner exemption?
Posted on 7/4/18 at 10:47 pm to t00f
How about you citizens change a paradigm.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 10:48 pm to Sao
Agreed, totally. All for public education when it works.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 10:50 pm to t00f
Model an ISD theory. But never ever completely give total employee benefit control to the state. Each ISD should be able to have bid control.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 10:54 pm to Sao
Our issue (one of them) is what I stated before and needs to go away, if used for education.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 10:55 pm to Sao
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When a large new development goes up containing, say, 600 homes. Is a new elementary built within or close by the new construction?
It kind of works backwards in BROLA. When a new development goes up it’s in a more desirable place so the private school people move there. The neighborhoods they leave end up getting the public school folks.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 10:56 pm to t00f
When you say exemption, is it a percentage or set $ amount
Posted on 7/4/18 at 10:58 pm to OweO
quote:What an overly simplistic generalization to make. You're wrong.
Let's be honest. Many people who send their kids to private school do so because they don't want their kids to go to school with black kids.
I send my kids to private school for the spiritual aspect that you don't get in public school. I also don't really care about skin color as much as I care about whether or not the students give a frick about themselves and their education.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:00 pm to t00f
Then what percentage is deemed a school tax or is it even called that
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:04 pm to Sao
It’s a pretty genius system. The people who send their kids to private schools probably pay 75% of the cost of public schools that they can’t in good conscience send their kids to. Better together.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:05 pm to Sao
As someone who also lived outisde of NOLA-LA area, this exemption is unheard of. We obviously pay taxes for public school.
Also, in NOLA/JP we pay about 12-14k per student, per year.
Thats right 12-14k per student.
Also, in NOLA/JP we pay about 12-14k per student, per year.
Thats right 12-14k per student.
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:06 pm to Methuselah
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What would the education system in Louisiana look like in 10 years? 20 years? 30 years?
I hear this argument a lot. I’ll answer your question with a question. What are we comparing? “The public school system” or the individual education of each student?
If you dumped a large number of students into the public school system who generally have parents who are committed to their educational success (as demonstrated by their willingness to spend big bucks on private schools), then the public school system (as measured by average student performance) would improve greatly.
But here’s the better question, how well would those same private school students do if they were moved into public schools, and how would the existing public school students perform in response to having those private school students added to their schools?
David the Gnome (and others) point out that they had better a educational experience in AP classes at public schools than they would have had in private schools. Maybe so. (Is he comparing that to AP classes or regular classes in private schools?). But doesn’t this support the idea of the benefits of high achieving students being segregated from average and below average students in classes?
It’s assumed that bringing in high achieving students will help transform schools for the average and below average public school students. I don’t think that assumption has been proven.
Isn’t it more likely that some students will benefit from the change while others will suffer negatively?
Let’s not forget that to eliminate private schools also eliminates all girl/all boy learning environments which surely is better for some students. You also give up on religious, spiritual, and moral education, and also allow for a single, state-sponsored and approved curriculum and methods which not all people agree with. It leads to a stifling of diversity of thought.
In the end, I just don’t think that forcing all students to attend public schools will bring about a net positive. I’d prefer a system-wide voucher system to allow freedom of choice to all students. In essence, get rid of the one size fits all public school monopoly on education.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:13 pm to HarveyBanger
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The government of the state of Louisiana has proven it can’t run anything efficiently.
Is it really the government that ruined public schools in Louisiana? Bc the public schools ain’t great everywhere in houston either...that’s why we live in the suburbs.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:15 pm to OysterPoBoy
This is such an awful message board topic because of typing but man it's interesting.
Like in Texas, take Dallas ISD. It's awful. Awful because it's old. Property valuation via existing structure dictates school tax base. Right? So, DISD, in order to get progress must propose a Bond Election. Or, a complete ISD school tax hike.
Now, picture McKinney, Frisco, Allen, etc even 20 short years ago. There were cows there. Sprawl came and it came like a tsunami. So, those ISD's went from 3A to Big 5A in what you could call overnight. Flooded with ISD tax via home builds. So... those land buildouts all built new Elementary schools. Some new Jr Highs and some new HS. All in the ISD UIL structure. Sprawl actually discourages private school enrollment.
BROLA and Louisiana is a prime example of who would benefit from this. A first 75$K exemption vs a school tax of 1.45% +/- seems like a good deal.
Like in Texas, take Dallas ISD. It's awful. Awful because it's old. Property valuation via existing structure dictates school tax base. Right? So, DISD, in order to get progress must propose a Bond Election. Or, a complete ISD school tax hike.
Now, picture McKinney, Frisco, Allen, etc even 20 short years ago. There were cows there. Sprawl came and it came like a tsunami. So, those ISD's went from 3A to Big 5A in what you could call overnight. Flooded with ISD tax via home builds. So... those land buildouts all built new Elementary schools. Some new Jr Highs and some new HS. All in the ISD UIL structure. Sprawl actually discourages private school enrollment.
BROLA and Louisiana is a prime example of who would benefit from this. A first 75$K exemption vs a school tax of 1.45% +/- seems like a good deal.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:16 pm to biglego
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Bc the public schools ain’t great everywhere in houston either...that’s why we live in the suburbs.
Read my post. Older the ISD property buildout, the worse it could possibly expect in a Metro. Suburbs win every single time.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:18 pm to Methuselah
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If, say, 75% of people who send their kids to private school, sent them to public schools
As a hypothetical white, upper middle class man living in Louisiana, why would I do this?
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:18 pm to biglego
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Is it really the government that ruined public schools in Louisiana? Bc the public schools ain’t great everywhere in houston either...that’s why we live in the suburbs
HISD is shite too. My sister had her kid in there for about 3 months. News flash - unless you are in Boise or Montana most inner city schools suck
Posted on 7/4/18 at 11:23 pm to Sao
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BROLA and Louisiana is a prime example of who would benefit from this. A first 75$K exemption vs a school tax of 1.45% +/- seems like a good deal.
For the record, that exemption is for any tax, non dedicated.
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 11:25 pm
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