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If i don’t get vaccinated , I’m 100% protected from the vaccine side effects
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:09 pm
And 99.8% protected against Covid-19.
Those sound like pretty decent chances.
Those sound like pretty decent chances.
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:18 pm to DingleBarry
If my grandmother had wheels…
She’d be a bicycle
She’d be a bicycle
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:20 pm to DingleBarry
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I’m 100% protected from the vaccine side effects…
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And 99.8% protected against Covid-19.
There is a fatal flaw in your use of statistical data.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:21 pm to DingleBarry
The restaurants that ask me to wait outside never know how to answer when I say “oh, you mean wait outside like a dog?”
They always have some stupid expression of confusion on their face.
They always have some stupid expression of confusion on their face.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:22 pm to DingleBarry
Yeah but you just kilt maw maw
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:25 pm to Obtuse1
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There is a fatal flaw in your use of statistical data.
quote:Checks out
Obtuse1
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:35 pm to Obtuse1
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There is a fatal flaw in your use of statistical data.
His statement about avoiding potential vaccine adverse events is objectively true. It's a fact.
He is also accurate when he explains his risk of death from Covid. If he is young and in good health he would actually be overstating his risk by a significant margin.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:40 pm to DingleBarry
Is there some risk of the vaccine that isn't a risk of the virus itself?
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:41 pm to DingleBarry
Hence why I am unvaccinated and always will be. It is my choice and no one elses. I am young and in shape so why do I even need it?
Anyone who disagrees or hates my rational decision can kiss the fattest mother fricking part of my arse.
Anyone who disagrees or hates my rational decision can kiss the fattest mother fricking part of my arse.
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:42 pm to TDcline
Where are restaurants asking you to wait outside?
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:52 pm to crazy4lsu
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Is there some risk of the vaccine that isn't a risk of the virus itself?
Terrible question.
There is risk associated with the vaccine. This is true of everything in medicine.
However minimal, there is risk. More for some,less for others.
The decision to take jab should be based on this analysis:
What is the benefit gained by taking on the risk of vaccination?
Every person on Earth has a different risk profile. Every single one.
Why would a young healthy person accept any risk at all when there is almost no benefit to them from these leaky vaccines.
If you are old or fat or old and fat, you should give very serious consideration to taking the vaccine. Your vax risk likely buys you a significant benefit.
No one should be forced and to require it of kids is criminal.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 3:58 pm to DingleBarry
As long as you’re not a fat slob or old as shite, you’re good
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 12/4/21 at 4:16 pm to Tiger985
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What is the benefit gained by taking on the risk of vaccination?
So you suggest that my question is terrible, and then ask this, proving you don't understand anything about infectious disease. From your answer, it suggests there isn't a risk associated with the vaccine that isn't also a possible sequelae of the virus itself. If there was a risk that was specific to the vaccine, outside of vaccine-associated injury, that would change the metric. Clinically, we do see the vaccines providing protection from serious disease, but respiratory illnesses will have breakthrough infections because it is difficult to control transmission rates.
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If you are old or fat or old and fat, you should give very serious consideration to taking the vaccine. Your vax risk likely buys you a significant benefit.
So 75% of American adults possibly fall into this demographic, if we are talking about people who are overweight but not obese.
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 12/4/21 at 4:25 pm to crazy4lsu
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Is there some risk of the vaccine that isn't a risk of the virus itself?
One hypothesis is that fragile endothelial cells are not vulnerable to viral infection because they do not express ACE2. This study concludes:
"Very low or no basal ACE2 expression was found in ECs (endothelial cells) compared with epithelial cells"
LINK
But those same fragile endothelium cells are vulnerable to entry via liposome-based mRNA (ie Pfizer or Moderna) or adenovirus entry like J&J.
If the vaccines were confined to the injection site like they should be this would be of no concern.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 4:31 pm to FtheNWO
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One hypothesis is that fragile endothelial cells are not vulnerable to viral infection because they do not express ACE2. This study concludes:
"Very low or no basal ACE2 expression was found in ECs (endothelial cells) compared with epithelial cells"
LINK
But those same fragile endothelium cells are vulnerable to entry via liposome-based mRNA (ie Pfizer or Moderna) or adenovirus entry like J&J.
If the vaccines were confined to the injection site like they should be this would be of no concern.
Are you saying that COVID doesn't cause coagulopathies? While endothelial injury is a necessary condition of hypercoagulable states, you also need other factors, and lots of things cause prior endothelial injury.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 4:32 pm to Tiger985
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His statement about avoiding potential vaccine adverse events is objectively true. It's a fact.
100% true.
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He is also accurate when he explains his risk of death from Covid. If he is young and in good health he would actually be overstating his risk by a significant margin.
But here is the deception. He talked about the vaccine in terms of side effects but he used (more or less) the statistic for death for the virus and avoided labeling it correctly. This is a far sight from 99.8% protection from the virus and not remotely apples to apples.
People upvoting are either not sharp enough to catch the sleight of hand or they don't care about accuracy as long as it supports their feels.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 4:33 pm to Tiger985
quote:You don't think it's just a bit dishonest to compare the risk of side effects of the vaccine to the risk of death from covid? Or are you just as dishonest?
His statement about avoiding potential vaccine adverse events is objectively true. It's a fact.
He is also accurate when he explains his risk of death from Covid.
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