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Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:21 pm to
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Dylan was assumed this whole time in the 1st floor right bedroom. If your looking at the houses from the front. Dylan ended being on 2nd floor left bedroom.


Glad you brought that up. When I thought she was on the 1st floor I didn't question it....as much.

After I looked at the 3d link posted here it's hard for me to not. Not villifying the girl but I can't help but wonder.

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:24 pm to
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have nothing to back it up but it’s possible his lawyer scrubbed his social media accounts.


He wouldn't have had access.

But if Reddit shows the accounts were deleted from the lawyer's office that's even more evidence he did it.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:32 pm to
Have we considered the possibility that the two victims on the 3rd floor were outside on the deck when KH approached the house? There is a sliding glass door connected to their room that accesses the deck. If the audio that’s been posted is legit, it might explain why you hear two girls possibly laughing and why you hear “there’s someone out there or here”
Posted by NastyNatiNole
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:33 pm to
The audio is not legit
Posted by Saintsisit
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:36 pm to
Correct, it's been reported its from an unrelated domestic incident. Just so happens to be similar in names.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:40 pm to
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Correct, it's been reported its from an unrelated domestic incident. Just so happens to be similar in names.


So the audio referenced in the affidavit hasn’t surfaced?
Posted by HouseMom
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:42 pm to
The affidavit specifically mentions a neighbor's security camera picking up noise (voices, the dog barking, a thud) at this time.


Posted by NastyNatiNole
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:49 pm to
The audio is not From the Moscow Murders.

The woman who originally posted the audio on TikTok even says its not the Moscow Murders audio.

Her intent according to her was to show how a ring doorbell could possibly pick up noises and voices in a neighbors house.
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Saintsisit
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:52 pm to
Not sure, but that Twitter link with the detailed dialog definitely ain't it.
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 6:00 pm to
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The affidavit specifically mentions a neighbor's security camera picking up noise (voices, the dog barking, a thud) at this time.


Yes but that doesn’t mean what’s posted online is the real recording from that might. It would be weird for it to leak now when it’s been in evidence from the beginning.
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 10:22 pm
Posted by HouseMom
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 6:25 pm to
True, but that doesn't mean that it's not. I thought the other person was saying audio footage didn't exist.
Posted by NastyNatiNole
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 6:43 pm to
The original post from the lady who first posted the audio states in the original post with said audio that its not from the Moscow murders. She was just trying to prove that a ring doorbell could possibly record the the sounds from that night.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 6:46 pm to
Everything up until recently has said two girls on floor 3 and guy/girl on floor 2 killed. 2 girls on the bottom floor left alone. It now appears that 1 girl on the second and 1 girl on the first were left alive.

Doesn’t change the fact that he killed them but the couple was first and then up to the 3rd floor. Strange order to go for 2 on the 2nd, leave 1 alone, head to floor 3 and then roll out.

I still think somebody on the 3rd was the target but he either was spotted walking in or decided to take out the guy first.
Posted by NastyNatiNole
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 6:54 pm to
The girls as individuals and a group lived there life on social media. Constantly posting pictures and video. Alot of pictures and videos from in the house. We know that Dylan definitely stayed in floor 1 right bedroom. If your a lunatic phsyco murderer you could definitely stalk these girls online and get a pretty good layout of the house and which room each girl stays in. At some point Dylan permanently moved up to floor 2 or was just staying on floor 2 that night. Maybe Brian did stalk them online and expected nobody to be in that room and figured Bethany and Dylan was still on floor 1.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 7:22 pm to
They reported that Brian K’s college teacher told the media that he was brilliant”, that in her 10 years of teaching, he was only the second student to be recommended for a PHD program.

Also reported that Brian’s high school student said he “brilliant’ but she recalled many instances of him being bullied a lot by girls in high school.

I posted earlier that this guy had a high IQ, and that he was probably bullied by girls and their boyfriends in the past. And that was proven accurate. The multiple brutal stabbings show someone angry, in a fit of rage, that’s why I felt he had been bullied before by girls and their boyfriends.
Posted by VolunGator
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Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 7:38 pm to
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...They reported that Brian K’s college teacher told the media that he was brilliant....


Having a strong aptitude for any specific subject should not be confused as a high I.Q. More often than not there exists no correlation between the two.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 7:42 pm to
Chicken, they just reported that this guy was bullied by girls and their boyfriends many times in school. Both his high school teacher and college professor proclaimed he was a “brilliant’ student.

Professor said he was one of only two students recommended for this PHD program. I posted earlier this guy had likely been bullied, the way these victims were brutally stabbed multiple times, to me showed an attacker who was angry.

I still believe he left the sheath intentionally to let the police, girls and their boyfriends know, this couple was targeted, he would have gotten satisfaction in them knowing.
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 7:45 pm
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:08 pm to
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The more I think about the delay in calling the cops the more puzzling it is.

I mean certainly Bryan was literally running around the house killing people. I would imagine ran out the door and past Dylan. At first I was imagining Bryan walking past her in the hall, but I have to think he was moving relatively fast and with extreme purpose. I mean he sped off in his car. He had to be frantic in the house and I really cant understand how Dylan saw that and went to bed.

paralyzed with fear? what was she fearing at that point?


Almost as puzzling as waiting 8 hrs to call police is the investigators putting this information that DK witnessed the killer in the house. For what purpose does this piece of information add to the arrest warrant. Seeing bushy eyebrows is not useful identifying information that sealed the arrest warrant so why add it. Adding this information brings duress to DK and it also gives the defense an opening to challenge the arrest and investigation.

Its almost guaranteed that the defense will focus heavily on the information DK provided police. Was she drunk? if so then how could she be certain what she saw? She said she was in fear, why did she wait 8 hrs. to call police? If she says she passed out then again, how is her witness testimony reliable? Will she have to recant her statement to the police? What will that do to the rest of the investigation reliability?

I can see an OJ defense being raised where the investigators ended up being on trial. The investigators were under pressure to make an arrest and they pieced together circumstantial evidence to make a case based on an unreliable witness.

Not saying Kohberg is innocent, just saying it looks like another mistake that could come back to haunt them and the roommate.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:13 pm to
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I posted earlier that this guy had a high IQ, and that he was probably bullied by girls and their boyfriends in the past. And that was proven accurate.
quote:

I posted earlier this guy had likely been bullied, the way these victims were brutally stabbed multiple times, to me showed an attacker who was angry.

say it once more for the people in the back
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:16 pm to
They don't need her testimony. He left his DNA. She's not the key to a conviction.
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