re: ICE raids at jobs sites in NOLA

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And you have ZERO knowledge of what they are doing when not at work.


I would like to clarify: I have nor want ZERO knowledge of what ANYONE is doing when not at work.

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Haha exactly. And I don't wish for anyone outside of spouse, friends, or family to know what I am doing when not at work.

for our contrarians and/or illegal immigration sympathizers, here’s some additional data to think about :

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fairus.org: The Financial Burden of Illegal Immigration

since I doubt you’ll take the time to open the link, I’ll borrow the figures fairus.org uses to summarize:

Total Government Expenditures on Illegal Aliens:

Total Federal Expenditures: $66,449,136,000
+ Total State Expenditures: $115,608,730,000
= $182,057,865,000

Total Tax Contributions from Illegal Aliens:
Total Federal Taxes Paid: $16,219,495,000
+ Total State Taxes Paid: $15,172,140,000
= $31,391,635,000

So, Total Tax Burden of Illegal Aliens:
$182,057,865, 000 total expenditures on illegal aliens
- $31,391,635,000 total tax contributions from illegal aliens
= $150,666,230,000

$150 billion dollars in 2023.

Now, explain to me how illegal immigrants are a net positive for our economy. What do they contribute that offsets $150 billion?

And that’s 2023. We let in another 3-5 million illegal aliens in 2024. This problem will only continue to snowball. And that’s just the economics. Seriously, consider what you are saddling the next generations of Americans with by just throwing your hands up, and saying, “our blueberry prices and sheetrock installation are gonna skyrocket”. It’s a lazy and ignorant argument proving you either have an ulterior motive to support illegal immigration or you’re brainwashed.

Not to mention the impact on our medical industry, impact on housing availability, impact on public schools, etc. Not to mention the vast vast majority of these people despise us, our culture, and our history. They have no intention to integrate into our society. They only want to take and stick their hands out for tax payer funded assistance.

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It's more than a few. It's the majority. Hispanics overall are hard working people. IF they take a day off it's Sunday and many don't take Sunday off.

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This is what yall miss on the immigration/deportation issue.


It’s not that the people are bad.


-Illegal immigration undercuts worker wages. It allows businesses to avoid paying pay roll tax, benefits, healthcare, and OT.


-It’s a strain on the healthcare system. Go to any state hospital half the patients are illegals who have no insurance. So a good portion of the budget to pay for those services are passed on the working Americans who have to subsidize the loss.


-Jobs, young men unemployed is at a 50 year high. Jobs that young men used to do such as construction and labor jobs now go to illegals.

-Housing prices, with 30 million illegals in this country and a lack of supply on affordable housing it places scarcity into the market raising prices.


-Car insurance cost majority don’t carry insurance and we all know it you see a family or man come out there car after hitting you, you are shite out of luck. Causing insurance rates to rise to offset those cost as well.


So all of you saying how cool they are which I agree most are good people. It’s a detriment to our country and the working class that this many people are here illegally.

To common ground.














Which everyone "should" agree with.

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It’s either enforce the laws or let everyone in because a few are cool and hard working

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Another option is to update the laws to allow people to be here on work visas and pay taxes and allow for more streamlined and less costly citizenship. But passing a law is hard and takes away from a political punching bag. So that won’t happen.

I think we should just deport anyone who does it. Send them along with the rest.

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This can happen but it's whack-a-mole as an effective solution. The illegals are almost always "subcontracted." The real people hiring them are insulated.


Why not fine the big companies and shut down the contractors companies?

The old “well it’s a complicated problem so we’re just going to accept it” excuse shouldn't be an option anymore.

I mean for people who really want to fix the problem.

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I have a handyman we've used on several bigger projects at our house. He will sub-contract for more labor on some things. Guys are hispanic, but he's not paying them directly. He makes the sub-contractor who brings the crew sign a piece of paper saying they are no undocumented workers in the crew. That's really all he can do.

If the laborers are illegal, who should get in trouble? Me? The handyman? The sub-contractor who gathers the laborers? Just the laborers?

Hey somebody with some brain cells!!!

Yeah, so I hire a GC, agree on a price (and warranty) and he performs the work and I pay the agreed upon fee.

I don’t give two shits who performs the actual work That would be the GCs problem not mine.

And the roof looks great by the way!