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Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:51 pm to slackster
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Like I said, illogical. You’ve decided one is worse than the other without any evidence to support such a claim
No, I actually never did. You introduced that claim.
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The only evidence you have is that the vaccine dramatically reduces your chances of getting the virus, yet you’ve chose to ignore it.
The only 100% evidence I have is that I haven’t contracted Covid. Am I worried about Covid? Not really. Am I willingly to take the risk? Yes, just like every year in which I don’t get a flu shot.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:52 pm to jennBN
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Not all nurses are stupid.
Of course not all nurses are stupid.
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Are you a physician?
No.
My anecdotal evidence suggests most doctors I know are getting it and most nurses j know are being nurses.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:54 pm to Jyrdis
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No, I actually never did. You introduced that claim.
Should have known you were trolling.
Get the vaccine. Don’t get the vaccine. Just take a real stance using well thought out logic.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:54 pm to lsuson
We're now living in a world that doesn't listen to physicians and distrust true objective medical treatment.
And we wonder how we got to where we are with this pandemic.
And we wonder how we got to where we are with this pandemic.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:55 pm to Topisawtiger
Look, only a few categories of people should be taking the vaccine. Those at risk, those caring for the at risk who haven't had infection, and those living around at risk who haven't had infection. Otherwise, live normally. 100 million Americans have already had this virus but the lying media won't tell you that.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:56 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Aside from the fact that it wasn't developed "last week" and has been tested in around 70,000 people, is your suggestion that drugs that are new are all dangerous? Quite the opposite actually.
If you say so, Doctor.
Same people that were crying about "long term effects" of a virus that had only been around for a couple months are now the same people pretending that trials conducted over a few months can accurately predict how the vaccine will behave.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:57 pm to lsuson
They can get it or not, but they will come in contact with the virus. I’m willing to fall on the sword just to regain some normalcy. Military hit us up with enough crap, not worried.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:57 pm to Topisawtiger
Not sure how some people can blame you for not taking it. No research to show long term effects or side effects from it
Unless I have underlying issues and am more at risk due to my age/weight, then I’m taking a pass on this.
Unless I have underlying issues and am more at risk due to my age/weight, then I’m taking a pass on this.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:57 pm to slackster
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Should have known you were trolling.
Get the vaccine. Don’t get the vaccine. Just take a real stance using well thought out logic.
I actually never did. In truth, I’m not necessarily for it right now. As I’m laying out my argument with another poster.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:57 pm to slackster
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Just take a real stance using well thought out logic.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:58 pm to HamzooReb
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Look, only a few categories of people should be taking the vaccine.
This is not true.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:59 pm to concrete_tiger
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Same people that were crying about "long term effects" of a virus that had only been around for a couple months are now the same people pretending that trials conducted over a few months can accurately predict how the vaccine will behave.
This works both ways.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:00 pm to BlindTiger7
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No research to show side effects from it
This is not true.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:00 pm to HamzooReb
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100 million Americans have already had this virus but the lying media won't tell you that.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:00 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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What you are suggesting is that somehow someway a majority of the people in the trial knew that they had received the vaccine or the placebo, and with that knowledge conducted their lives differently because of it.
No - but what if a majority of the people in the test study were not ever exposed to Covid? Do we know if they were actually exposed?? That’s my question.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:01 pm to HamzooReb
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Look, only a few categories of people should be taking the vaccine
That's not how vaccines work. Jesus tapdancing Christ people. Instead of continually looking for confirmation of your biases, instead look at the people who've spent decades of their lives studying medicine and observe what they are doing.
These things aren't hard, unless you make them.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:02 pm to Capt ST
I know very little about the vaccine itself and that's irrelevant for me. I'll go out of my way to get this as much as I go out of my way to get the flu shot. If I'm cruising along and find myself first in line to receive it, sure, give me that shite. Otherwise I'll follow all the other mask and social distancing rules and whatever else is asked of me for the greater good. Until its mandatory for work or travel or something else that might inconvenience me- my selfish laziness and .01% of dying will win out vs. my time, sore arm, and bells palsy lava face. Meanwhile, all you high risk people go get it and lets beat this team!
the funniest part about arguing about unknowns from covid vs vaccine is that a lot of us unknowingly already had it :DDD - go get pawpaw vaccinated and then we can all go celebrate at the bar and spit in each other's faces and be an impenetrable fortress
the funniest part about arguing about unknowns from covid vs vaccine is that a lot of us unknowingly already had it :DDD - go get pawpaw vaccinated and then we can all go celebrate at the bar and spit in each other's faces and be an impenetrable fortress
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:03 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Wife is preggo and wont be able to get the vaccine.
I'm not going to get it until I see more gen pop data from this initial phase (I'm a statistician by trade still dont trust power analyses). I'm not an anti-vaccer. Got flu shot a couple months ago.
Mother is an LPN, her physician recommended not taking it until later on as well to see what happens.
I'm totally expecting a zombie apocalypse similar to 28 days later in about a year or so
I'm not going to get it until I see more gen pop data from this initial phase (I'm a statistician by trade still dont trust power analyses). I'm not an anti-vaccer. Got flu shot a couple months ago.
Mother is an LPN, her physician recommended not taking it until later on as well to see what happens.
I'm totally expecting a zombie apocalypse similar to 28 days later in about a year or so
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:03 pm to GreenRockTiger
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No - but what if a majority of the people in the test study were not ever exposed to Covid? Do we know if they were actually exposed?? That’s my question.
That was the whole point of the trial....40,000 people living their normal lives. It was a representative sample (those that got the vaccine and those that didn't). You then look at the number of people that contracted it within the placebo group and those that contracted it in the study group and you can run the numbers on both prevention from infection and prevention from serious illness...essentially the variable being tested here (the only thing that was different) was the receipt of the vaccine, so you can attribute reduced infection/illness rates to that variable.
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