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re: I don't trust string theory and neither should you

Posted on 12/16/15 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by EventHorizon
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 5:35 pm to
It's pretty simple.

A flat 2D ant on a piece of paper doesn't realize that you're watching it from our dimension.
A human in our dimension doesn't realize that a 5D being is watching it jerk off every night.

Myth: Confirmed.
Posted by titleist71
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 6:43 pm to
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empirical observation


Observing thru observation?

Got it

eta: Nice thread though
This post was edited on 12/16/15 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
39022 posts
Posted on 12/16/15 at 8:17 pm to
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When you look at it and think real hard then wala, you have it


WTF is up with the "Wallas" today?
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 9:16 pm to
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quote:
empirical observation


Observing thru observation?

Good catch. Was a bit redundant.
Posted by yankeeundercover
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 9:19 pm to
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Now, let me preface my further comments by admitting that the mathematics involved
Stopped reading right here...

frick math
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 9:23 pm to
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Define time without using words relating to time. Write a definition that isn't circular.



The method by which we measure the relevancy or priority of events or objects.
Posted by tiderider
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 9:28 pm to
i hope there aren't 11 dimensions ...


11 rexes would be difficult to bear ...
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 9:39 pm to
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Neither does Dr Cooper


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Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 12/16/15 at 10:01 pm to
You admit you can't grasp the mathematics behind the theory, so you reject it. I'm willing to bet you do not comprehend the mathematics behind the models for global warming either. Why don't you reject that theory? There is even actual evidence proving the models are inaccurate. Where is the skepticism you have for string theory?
Posted by Asharad
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 5:59 am to
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Now, let me preface my further comments by admitting that the mathematics involved are well beyond my education, and perhaps even outside my aptitude, and that the relevant human principals are by empirical observation entirely worthy of the type of respect we so unduly grant to, say, obviously stupid brain surgeons.

But when asked to consider the workings of this and other possible universes, should we not insist on total empiricism over the multiple dimensions they propose? Now, I'm not suggesting that we must sensorily experience every natural phenomenon in order to concede its existence; for example, it's easy to accept the actuality of electromagnetic waves above and below the visual light spectrum because we know from experience that our senses are physically limited.

But are those eleven string theory dimensions the same sort of proposition as waves and particles we can't see or we've yet to detect? I don't think so. The problem is that, despite claims to the contrary by those physicists and mathematicians, we CAN'T EVEN COMPREHEND THEM.

The spatial dimensions (i.e. height, width, depth, time) are easy enough to grasp and experience, and position with the universe might also be considered and comprehended as a fifth. But it seems to me that anything beyond those are merely abstract mathematical constructions, invented for the sake of a descriptive formula. They no more exist, by my understanding and skepticism, than two. Yes, the NUMBER two exists, and two of many things definitely exist, but two, itself, does not. It is mere abstract description.


Posted by pleading the fifth
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 7:01 am to
Rex;dr
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Posted by Bootyrich
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 7:37 am to
All I know is trucks and lifts and this thread doesn't talk about either
Posted by tonydtigr
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 7:41 am to
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The point is, it's not easy to comprehend.


I agree. The concept of time without a method of measuring the passage of time is pretty hard to get your head around. Maybe because it isn't real. There is only now.



Well, that sucks.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 8:37 am to
The purpose of Science as a discipline is to provide natural explanations; if we as laymen can't comprehend their declarations then they're not explanations at all and Science has failed.

Basically, I'm asserting two things here: it's likely not possible that the human mind can comprehend more than the familiar dimensions of time, space, and position, and it's not contradictory that a scientific statement can be coherent but also incomprehensible.
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