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Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:50 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27004 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:50 am
Our 5 ton unit is from the late 90's and on life support. What are your picks for brands? The AC company we use quoted us for 3 different Carrier units, but also install Rheem, American Standard/Trane...

We have a Trane now and it has done well, it is just old.

Install quotes we are getting are anywhere from $8-13,000 depending on unit.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75219 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:51 am to
It’s hard to stop a Trane
Posted by JetFuelTyga
Born in desert,raised in lion's den
Member since Feb 2016
1786 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Install quotes we are getting are anywhere from $8-13,000 depending on unit.


Tell them you will take the $8 unit. That is a steal
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48570 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:54 am to
We have a 5 ton American Standard and it's been a great ac.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
2955 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:55 am to
So you are needing to install both inside and outside equipment correct?

Depending on the SEER of the unit, $8K should be the upper limits not the lower even if you need both inside and out unless you need duct work done also.

I had a 4 ton Rheem (probably 13 SEER) installed outside only for $2500. Inside units should only run 1500-2000. Just giving you some numbers to compare (even if mine was 4 ton vs. 5 ton). I would hope what they are quoting you is a higher SEER.
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 8:56 am
Posted by The Great McGinty
Member since Jan 2017
1384 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:55 am to
Stay the frick away from Goodman.
Trans is where it’s at. The most common problem with these are “customer” error, from my experience.
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56268 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:00 am to
Get two more bids if your current unit is limping along.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21259 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:00 am to
Not an HVAC guy, American Standard/Trane > Rheem. Not so much for cooling, but American Standard is more quiet.

I just had a 4 ton American Standard put in and I can vouch it is much more quiet than my old 3.5 ton Lennox.

Do not know anything on Carrier.

Whatever you choose is going to be so much better than your 90s unit
Posted by Harambe
Cincinnati Zoo
Member since Aug 2016
277 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:01 am to
You should ask around and find a commercial HVAC tech who's company allows them to do side work. They can be way cheaper. These guys can usually get good pricing through their employer, don't have any of the overhead of having a company, and are usually better than most residential techs.

I tell this to everyone I hear getting quotes from for unit replacement.
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
1976 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:03 am to
I work for a company that doesn't rep any one brand. We are also on the hook for callouts and repairs for up to 7 years after the install. All that said, we install Rheems or Ruuds if it is our choice. They are the most cost effective for the customer, they tend to be the most reliable, least amount of issues, and most inexpensive to maintain over a long period of time. We literally are putting our money where our mouth is with our coverage. They are like the Honda Accord/ Toyota Camry of the HVAC world, IMO

ETA: DO NOT GET A GOODMAN!!! Please for the love of all that is right.
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 9:06 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20478 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:04 am to
I've always heard Trane are great but sound like a train. Op, some units are definitely louder than others, so if sound matters may want to look into that. When I say sound matters, I mean location in your house. If it's in a basement it doesn't, if it's off your living room it does.

I'd personally recommend getting 5 quotes. Will be worth your time, each only takes 30 minutes. I replaced a 2.5 ton and I had quotes from $3500-8000. All for similar units. Each company generally only sells 2-4 brands, one low end, one mid grade, and one 'best' brand. I'd go mid grade. Pretty sure Lennox gets great reviews for their generally mid range prices.

Eta: I've found most are around $1000/ ton whole sale to purchase. So anything over that is generally Labor/ profit. If your are not doing vent work and just a basic swap it's 3-4 hours of work for a 2 man team. Pretty easy. So as said for a 5 ton $8 k would be a decent quote. $13k they are trying to rob you. I'm no HVAC pro I just own rental properties and get quotes often.
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 9:09 am
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9802 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:08 am to
Do all quotes include or exclude ducting?

Make sure you're comparing apples to apples.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19825 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:08 am to
Rheem
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40810 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:10 am to
quote:

We have a Trane now and it has done well, it is just old.


Well, you at least know what can stop a Trane. Father Time can.
Posted by Ray Finkle
Collier county
Member since Sep 2007
1644 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:17 am to
Goodman's are the loudest unit's on the market. My house and my neighbor's was built by a shitty builder who did spec homes 15 years ago. He put Goodman's on both and they will wake you up at night when they come on. Especially since the dumbass installed the unit on the same side as the master bedroom.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9802 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:20 am to
You've had good luck with the Trane.

Maybe you should stick with that brand. Seems low risk to me.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:34 am to
Td special. Email me bigedlsu@yahoo.com I'll discount you 1500 off their quote.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:41 am to
Ed I need you then, can you get me good pricing ?
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21259 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:42 am to
quote:

I've always heard Trane are great but sound like a train.


That is why I would say spend a few extra $$ and get American Standard version on Trane. The outside unit is larger than most which means it has a larger fan that runs at less RPMs.

I cannot hear mine when it kicks on, it is quiet.
Posted by SmellslikeKevinBacon
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2012
6185 posts
Posted on 6/28/18 at 9:51 am to
I have had a Goodman for over a decade that runs like it is brand new. I have never had a single issue with , nor do I find it loud.
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