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re: Hurricane Maria - Visiting the Outer Banks before Moving OTS

Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:44 pm to
Any idea how close to the coast they are? If the house is basically built of concrete they should be able to ride out the winds, as the Cat 5 stuff isn't likely to be there at ground level after a trek over PR. Surge is a concern, but if memory serves most of the beach is highrise type stuff you'd see in Gulf Shores.

Still, those 130 mph+ gusts the euro is throwing out for San Juan are no joke.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
13726 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by Rox
Member since Oct 2010
33333 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:45 pm to
All I know re their location is Old San Juan.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43101 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:48 pm to
...PREPARATIONS AGAINST LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE AND RAINFALL FLOODING AND DESTRUCTIVE WINDS SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION...

5:00 PM AST Tue Sep 19
Location: 16.8°N 64.0°W
Moving: WNW at 10 mph
Min pressure: 916 mb
Max sustained: 165 mph
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:48 pm to
Not ideal in terms of position relative to the water. The wind direction should be helpful at least, as most of it should be coming in from the south and not pushing as much water in, but they should be very aware of surge projections and their relative elevation. You can hide from the wind in a strong structure, there's no hiding from the surge if you're too low.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21005 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:48 pm to
Wow.. 916
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:50 pm to
Strengthening while popping small but noticable double maxima with winds and apparent second wall forming up on radar.

It's kind of weird to see that.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42785 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

Wow.. 916


Sub 910 is very possible no?
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43101 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:54 pm to
ZCZC MIATCDAT5 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

Hurricane Maria Discussion Number 15
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL152017
500 PM AST Tue Sep 19 2017

Maria has continued to strengthen this afternoon, with surface and
flight-level winds from an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter
aircraft supporting an intensity of 145 kt, and the central
pressure inside the 5 n mi wide eye falling to 916 mb. The
aircraft data also indicates that an outer wind maximum is present
about 20-30 n mi from the center, but this has not yet developed
into enough of an outer eyewall to stop the intensification in the
inner eyewall.

The initial motion remains 300/9. The forecast track philosophy
remains the same, with the eye of Maria expected to move near the
U. S. Virgin Islands tonight and across Puerto Rico on Wednesday,
followed by a motion just north of the eastern Dominican Republic
Wednesday night and Thursday. Subsequently, a break in the
subtropical ridge caused in part by Hurricane Jose should allow
Maria to turn north-northwestward and northward by the end of the
forecast period. Only minor changes have occurred in the track
guidance since the last advisory, and the new track has only minor
adjustments from the previous track.

Some additional strengthening is possible this evening before the
outer eyewall becomes better defined or the cyclone reaches its
maximum potential intensity. It now appears likely that Maria will
be at category 5 intensity when it moves over the U. S. Virgin
Islands and Puerto Rico, although there is a chance that the start
of the eyewall replacement cycle might reduce the intensity a little
bit. The hurricane should weaken as it crosses Puerto Rico, and
after that proximity to Hispaniola and less favorable upper-level
winds are likely to lead to continued slow weakening. The new
intensity forecast remains at the upper edge of the intensity
guidance.


KEY MESSAGES:

1. Maria's core is expected to move near or over St. Croix and
Puerto Rico tonight and Wednesday, bringing life-threatening wind,
storm surge, and rainfall impacts to portions of those islands.
Everyone in these areas should follow advice from local officials to
avoid life-threatening flooding from storm surge and rainfall.

2. Wind speeds atop and on the windward sides of hills and mountains
and on high-rise buildings could be much stronger than the
near-surface winds indicated in this advisory.

3. A hurricane warning also in effect for the remainder of the
Virgin Islands and the northern coast of the Dominican Republic,
where Maria is expected to bring dangerous wind, storm surge, and
heavy rainfall.

4. A hurricane watch is in effect for the southeastern Bahamas and
the Turks and Caicos, where Maria could bring hurricane conditions
on Thursday.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 19/2100Z 16.8N 64.0W 145 KT 165 MPH
12H 20/0600Z 17.5N 65.2W 145 KT 165 MPH
24H 20/1800Z 18.4N 66.7W 130 KT 150 MPH...OVER PUERTO RICO
36H 21/0600Z 19.3N 68.1W 125 KT 145 MPH...OVER WATER
48H 21/1800Z 20.2N 69.4W 120 KT 140 MPH
72H 22/1800Z 22.5N 71.0W 115 KT 130 MPH
96H 23/1800Z 25.5N 72.0W 110 KT 125 MPH
120H 24/1800Z 28.5N 72.5W 95 KT 110 MPH

$$
Forecaster Beven

NNNN
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:00 pm to
Christiansted Harbor St Croix Webcam

Don't see one listed for Frederiksted.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

The
aircraft data also indicates that an outer wind maximum is present
about 20-30 n mi from the center, but this has not yet developed
into enough of an outer eyewall to stop the intensification in the
inner eyewall.


Ask and Bevin gives the answer in the disco.

The NHC is mind reading apparently.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

All I know re their location is Old San Juan.


If they can get on the Navy base Roosevelt Roads, that is their best bet.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103441 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:04 pm to
A friend is riding this one out on Vieques. I would not be doing that personally.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:06 pm to
The Navy doesn't play when they build their bases, Key West was partially functional the day after Imra.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12324 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

If they can get on the Navy base Roosevelt Roads, that is their best bet.


Lived there growing up. We could see Vieques and Culebra from our house. At least an hour drive from San Juan.
Posted by jackmanusc
Columbia, SC
Member since Apr 2012
3948 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:14 pm to
Meanwhile...

Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12324 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

The Navy doesn't play when they build their bases, Key West was partially functional the day after Imra.


we had cinder block house with metal louvre windows. Nothing ornate, but functional.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
13726 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:16 pm to
NOAA Tides and Currents Data for monitoring.

St. Croix has 2 sites and there are several around PR. Hopefully they last a while to get good sea level conditions in near real time.

St. Croix already gusting to TS force and sustained nearly 30 mph with a foot above normal tides.

Zoom in to PR and VI...

LINK
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:23 pm to
We got a 140 kt surface wind in the SW eyewall and a pressure of 913 mb on the last pass.

Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5337 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:29 pm to
That's a scary update, I've had about all of hurricane season 2017 I can handle, prayers to the folks in the path of this monster.
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