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re: Human-like footprints found in Crete are older than feet
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:04 am to Cooter Davenport
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:04 am to Cooter Davenport
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We evolved only once. HOWEVER, it was longer ago than is currently generally accepted. We flourished in the very distant past, reached an advanced state with a technology that took a different path than what we have today, and that culture was wiped out by a meteorite impact that ended that glacial maximum and flooded the cities of the time. That's where the universal flood myths come from. The survivors came ashore in what's now Iraq and founded a precursor to what would become Babylon, where written language just popped up for the first time out of nowhere (as our accepted history has it), where they used a ratio-based geometry with base 60 notation that was able to make more precise calculations than our geometry, and where all western religions took their original shape. It doesn't involve aliens. It involves a much larger scale and more hardcore version of what just happened to Houston occuring to an advanced civilization that barely managed to survive in any way. The few survivors seemed otherworldly, angelic, or god-like to the primitives they encountered after they made their escape. A small amount of these survivors' knowledge and a memory of what happened to them encoded in allegory has been passed down through the eons by certain secret societies. Some very pale shadow and a weak echo of who they were is the great occult secret borne by a group or groups that we call the illumianti.
Well said
There is no physical evidence because it was literally "washed away" by a flood of a scale that is difficult to fathom. The mystery of the Sphinx and Great Pyramid is one of the few overt references to this culture that remain. The current "evidence" is what is passed down directly via the highest adepts of secret societies...
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Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:06 am to RollTide1987
Its things like this, among other archeological finds, that make me think our methods of dating some forms of rock are seriously flawed.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:09 am to RollTide1987
Obviously the first man didn't come from Africa. Myth debunked!!!!
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:12 am to RollTide1987
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(i) Archaic Homo footprint
Im am adult and still find joy in the little, immature things
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:18 am to LakeViewLSU
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We may have evolved more than once. Humans may have lived before and got wiped out.
This is the most interesting to me. If not us, its possible it couldve been another species of "us". There was another thread like this a month ago but I mentioned that around 30k years ago there were at least 4 species of humans alive at the same time, including us, and literally we only have the fingerbone of one of those species as evidence they existed at all. WE dont know anything else.
Thats only 30k years ago. What about farther back? Who knows.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:26 am to RollTide1987
There's really 3 options here
1) The dating is wrong
2) Aliens that created us
3) All this has happened before, and all this will happen again
1) The dating is wrong
2) Aliens that created us
3) All this has happened before, and all this will happen again
Posted on 9/2/17 at 8:30 am to dallastiger55
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hats why i have a hard time with religion.
We've been on this planet for millions of years along with dinosaurs and other creatures, yet my savior walked this earth only 2000 years ago?
Where did all those people go when they died?
You do realize the article puts a chink in the armor of science not religion
Posted on 9/2/17 at 9:27 am to jorconalx
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You do realize the article puts a chink in the armor of science not religion
I don't think it does. That's the whole reason there are not "facts" in science in the first place. Because any new discovery may come along that will make us investigate other theories and possibilities, which leads to new thoughts and ideas etc.
Science isn't something that draws a line in the sand and says "well, this is it, the whole truth, we stop investigating here" it is ongoing and will always be ongoing.
Most people don't understand that concept. The things that you think are "Facts" in science are simply the things we have to most evidence of. It's entirely possible we have more evidence of something completely different 100 years from now and it is thought of as the prevailing "fact" of that time. That is why it is not a religion as people want to claim it is. It's whole purpose is to change over time.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 9:38 am to TJGator1215
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Evolution is a crock of shite. It's another modern man made religion.
Maybe macroevolution. The universe in its current state always tends towards disorder. To think that matter 1) Could spontaneously from nothing and 2) said matter would form itself into living organic life is really absurd
I have doubts about God sometimes, but I always fall back to how incredibly impossible it would be for organisms as complex as human beings to have somehow formed from raw energy and complete disregard for the second law of thermodynamics
Posted on 9/2/17 at 9:55 am to RollTide1987
Amongst the options could be misdating the sample, the footprints not being footprints at all, them being from an unknown other animal now extinct, or aliens.
I'm pretty sure not the last one.
Sea Levels have changed dramatically over history.
Less than 200,000 years ago having ~250 less feet of sea level worldwide.
You could walk to Dry Tortugas.
I'm pretty sure not the last one.
Sea Levels have changed dramatically over history.
Less than 200,000 years ago having ~250 less feet of sea level worldwide.
You could walk to Dry Tortugas.
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 9:57 am
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:06 am to bamafan1001
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I have doubts about God sometimes, but I always fall back to how incredibly impossible it would be for organisms as complex as human beings to have somehow formed from raw energy and complete disregard for the second law of thermodynamics
Yes, it's much more likely that an all powerful ever present invisible super being created everything
Because that is way more in line with the laws of physics Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:09 am to bamafan1001
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Maybe macroevolution
common misconception there is no difference between Macro and Micro evolution. Macroevolution is just multiple occurrences of Microevolution over time. We live such a short life span it's hard to fathom the amount of time it takes to occur.
*edit because I don't proofread*
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 10:10 am
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:19 am to Grim
Trying to understand who or what created this universe by analyzing its physical laws is like artificially intelligent inhabitants of a super-advanced computer simulation trying to understand its programmers using only the "reality" of their simulated world. They might could draw some very vague conclusions about them, but nothing concrete, and they certainly couldn't expect that the rules of the simulation itself would apply to the programmers, who would exist completely outside and apart from it. The same applies to God. If he exists, then the phrase, "He is in no way bound by the laws of physics" is necessary by definition - but his existence is implied by the existence of those laws.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:22 am to bamafan1001
quote:This is not a thing. It's just evolution. Macro- and micro- are terms invented by christians who could no longer deny that evolution occurs, so they had to place arbitrary limits on it so their heads didn't explode.
Maybe macroevolution.
quote:It's not absurd at all. Life is not more ordered than the energy in the sun, for instance.
The universe in its current state always tends towards disorder. To think that matter 1) Could spontaneously from nothing and 2) said matter would form itself into living organic life is really absurd
quote:Evolution "obeys" the law. You do not understand the law. It's not your fault, this is a common argument from anti-evolution christians. They spread this sort of misinformation because it sounds like it might be right. It's not.
complete disregard for the second law of thermodynamics
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:36 am to Aristo
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How accurate is the testing?
Not at all.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:52 am to Korkstand
I think if humans were created by a supreme being we'd be made better. No useless appendix to cause trouble, no useless tailbone, no birth defects, no deadly childbirth, etc.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:55 am to biglego
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I think if humans were created by a supreme being we'd be made better. No useless appendix to cause trouble, no useless tailbone, no birth defects, no deadly childbirth, etc.
Exactly. Life is very messy and loaded with poor "decisions" and errors. This is what we would expect from the random processes (that's not to say evolution is random, as the process of natural selection is not random) of evolution, not from the hand of an infallible being.
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 10:58 am
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:59 am to Korkstand
The passage of time is hard to comprehend. Millions and billions of years is just too much when our lifespans are so small. It's like trying to wrap the mind around the size of the universe. So it's easy to see why many people aren't able to grasp the concept.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 10:59 am to biglego
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I think if humans were created by a supreme being we'd be made better. No useless appendix to cause trouble, no useless tailbone, no birth defects, no deadly childbirth, etc.
But he made us flawed to test us!
If he does exist and did make us flawed to test us, he is one evil, sick, twisted SOB not worthy of worship.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 11:04 am to troyt37
There is no god.
We're born, we live, we die.
We come from nothing and go back to nothing.
We're just a sack of living tissue with chemicals that have interactions like everything else and that can consistently override our environmental responses which gave us an advantage over the other sacks of living tissue that can't.
We're not magical, there's nothing special about us, we're made out of the same stardust the rest of the universe is made from.
You don't need a reason to live. Live and enjoy life with others, don't take from their enjoyment of life. We did fine without Jesus, the middle East did great without allah.
Don't let a clan of goat herders or a desert pirate determine morality, don't listen to a bald guy under a tree, don't let an elephant dictate the social classes. Just be a good person and if you have to ask if what you're doing is good, you probably aren't doing good.
And if you accept a book written by goat herders, desert pirates, hermits, or an elephant as absolute truths. You're missing out on the real more beautiful and absolutely ugly truths.
We're born, we live, we die.
We come from nothing and go back to nothing.
We're just a sack of living tissue with chemicals that have interactions like everything else and that can consistently override our environmental responses which gave us an advantage over the other sacks of living tissue that can't.
We're not magical, there's nothing special about us, we're made out of the same stardust the rest of the universe is made from.
You don't need a reason to live. Live and enjoy life with others, don't take from their enjoyment of life. We did fine without Jesus, the middle East did great without allah.
Don't let a clan of goat herders or a desert pirate determine morality, don't listen to a bald guy under a tree, don't let an elephant dictate the social classes. Just be a good person and if you have to ask if what you're doing is good, you probably aren't doing good.
And if you accept a book written by goat herders, desert pirates, hermits, or an elephant as absolute truths. You're missing out on the real more beautiful and absolutely ugly truths.
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