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re: How would you fix Baton Rouge?
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:47 am to kingbob
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:47 am to kingbob
quote:
reverse judge parker's decision
This already sorta happened.
Yeah, but the damage is done. At this point, it's similar to getting HIV, but then taking the drug cocktail to live a little longer before AIDS inevitably kills you.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:56 am to TigersSEC2010
So... are we all admitting BTR is currently the worst city in the state?
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:03 am to glaceau
No, that would be Alec or Funroe (which is also experiencing a massive spike in crime and murders).
All of the cities have major drawbacks, though.
Shreveport is kinda boring and has a ton of crime, but they do have a loop.
Lake Charles is booming, but there's a housing shortage, bad traffic, and still not a ton to do (but getting better).
New Orleans floods every time it rains because the S&WB is completely feckless and corrupt, is also stupidly violent (although mostly contained to the East these days), and has a racist mayor.
Lafayette is probably the nicest city, but they're in the midst of a massive, crippling economic depression caused by oil & gas being in the tank. If the oil market doesn't turn around soon, those forclosures are going to turn into a full-scale fire sale along with a massive exodus of retail stores.
Take what I just said about Lafayette and Triple it for Houma and add in a massive meth and heroin epidemic.
BR has one of the better economic situations due to having the state government, refineries/plants, and LSU in town. It's still recovering from the August floods that absolutely ravaged the suburbs. The core of the city is doing better than most, but it would be doing much better if not for the massive crime wave and the inept permitting office which is stymieing rebuilding.
The problem isn't that BR has so many problems, but that most of BR's problems are basically universally shared among Louisiana's cities. There is a common thread of inept/corrupt local officials, soaring violent crime, despicable road and drainage infrastructure, and gangland public schools in nearly all of Louisiana's cities and even most of its small towns. If BR was the outlier, that would be one thing, but it's actually just the state status-quo summed up in one city. The crapfest is almost unavoidable.
All of the cities have major drawbacks, though.
Shreveport is kinda boring and has a ton of crime, but they do have a loop.
Lake Charles is booming, but there's a housing shortage, bad traffic, and still not a ton to do (but getting better).
New Orleans floods every time it rains because the S&WB is completely feckless and corrupt, is also stupidly violent (although mostly contained to the East these days), and has a racist mayor.
Lafayette is probably the nicest city, but they're in the midst of a massive, crippling economic depression caused by oil & gas being in the tank. If the oil market doesn't turn around soon, those forclosures are going to turn into a full-scale fire sale along with a massive exodus of retail stores.
Take what I just said about Lafayette and Triple it for Houma and add in a massive meth and heroin epidemic.
BR has one of the better economic situations due to having the state government, refineries/plants, and LSU in town. It's still recovering from the August floods that absolutely ravaged the suburbs. The core of the city is doing better than most, but it would be doing much better if not for the massive crime wave and the inept permitting office which is stymieing rebuilding.
The problem isn't that BR has so many problems, but that most of BR's problems are basically universally shared among Louisiana's cities. There is a common thread of inept/corrupt local officials, soaring violent crime, despicable road and drainage infrastructure, and gangland public schools in nearly all of Louisiana's cities and even most of its small towns. If BR was the outlier, that would be one thing, but it's actually just the state status-quo summed up in one city. The crapfest is almost unavoidable.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 11:08 am
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:05 am to kingbob
You left out Covington and Mandeville. They seem to be the silver linings these days.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:05 am to TigersSEC2010
Reduce the size of city government, consolidate apartments
De-consolidate the city government from the EBR government
Grant St. George a charter to become their own city
Much more tbh
De-consolidate the city government from the EBR government
Grant St. George a charter to become their own city
Much more tbh
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:08 am to Paul Allen
quote:
You left out Covington and Mandeville. They seem to be the silver linings these days.
I wouldn't really call either of those a "city", but they are easily the nicest areas in the state.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:09 am to glaceau
quote:
So... are we all admitting BTR is currently the worst city in the state?
Worst except for Ferriday.
Ferriday is a craphole.
EDIT: My crack research team has informed me that, technically, Ferriday is a town not a city. So, it doesn't fit the criteria. Today, filling in for the part of Ferriday, we will be presenting Bogalusa.
Worst except for Bogalusa.
Bogalusa is a craphole.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 11:14 am
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:13 am to kingbob
quote:
New Orleans floods every time it rains because the S&WB is completely feckless and corrupt, is also stupidly violent (although mostly contained to the East these days), and has a racist mayor.
Why does the OT keep saying this?
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:14 am to Paul Allen
quote:
You left out Covington and Mandeville.
pretty much what Prarieville and Zachary are becoming?
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:15 am to ellishughtiger
quote:
Why does the OT keep saying this?
Because it's true
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:20 am to Topwater Trout
quote:
pretty much what Prarieville and Zachary are becoming?
I'm from Ascension Parish and no, just no
Maybe if there hadn't been The Great Flood, there could have been a chance, but there's no way in hell now.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:21 am to kingbob
How so?
I know some pretty prominent folks uptown that would think differently. You need to quit getting your info from tigerbaitn08
I know some pretty prominent folks uptown that would think differently. You need to quit getting your info from tigerbaitn08
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:23 am to ellishughtiger
quote:
I know some pretty prominent folks uptown that would think differently.
Those same kinda folks thought Sharon Weston-Broome was going to be a business-friendly moderate as mayor. "Prominent" folks get bamboozled all the time.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:24 am to kingbob
Yeah, but Ascension’s property values are way better than EBR and Livingston at this moment. Especially homes between 300-400k.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:26 am to kingbob
I don’t see how she’s racist. Only a racist person would blame someone for being racist.
Her daughter goes to an all white girls catholic school uptown for crying out loud. Look at her staff, majority white.
Her daughter goes to an all white girls catholic school uptown for crying out loud. Look at her staff, majority white.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:28 am to Paul Allen
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Yeah, but Ascension’s property values are way better than EBR and Livingston at this moment. Especially homes between 300-400k.
High home prices alone don't make an area nice, convenient, and livable. In fact, they can do the opposite.
What makes those things possible is forsight, planning, a business-friendly climate, a great police force, and infrastructure.
Ascension is relatively business friendly when compared to its neighbors, and it has a Sheriff's Office without peers, but it is utterly lacking in forsight, planning, and infrastructure, which is completely insufficient to support a parish of 120k people and growing.
Ascension had this idiotic strategy of refusing to plan for development because they wanted to still be "rural" while actually taking money under the table from developers, giving them free reign for 30 years. There is no consistency, no redundancy, no grid, no comprehensive sewer system, no public water system, etc. It's like trying to squeeze 100,000 apples into a 20,000 apple sack. Now, the chickens have come home to roost with flooding and traffic, and it's too late/too expensive to fix most of the damage.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:29 am to ellishughtiger
It's an attitude. Just read her response to the criticisms of the S&WB.
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:34 am to TigersSEC2010
Wow 4 pages and no mushrooms
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:36 am to TigersSEC2010
First,
Then
Then
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 11:38 am
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