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re: How would/will you respond if all of life becomes augmented/improved by AI?
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:58 pm to StringedInstruments
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:58 pm to StringedInstruments
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You're going to see Metallica*. But Metallica sounds the best they've ever sounded.
So it’s 1986?
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:00 pm to wesfau
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You're clearly not a music fan.
You clearly can’t read.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:01 pm to Larry_Hotdogs
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So it’s 1986?
Even better.
Hetfield is on his A game. No more saving his voice. It sounds perfect.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:03 pm to StringedInstruments
Dunno man, a lot of that stuff being the “best” is subjective, even down to whether the artists like to play the songs like it sounds on the albums or not.
For every huge technology enhanced “Avatar” movie, there’s a “Revenant” that has a colossally long scene driven by sheer force of collective human will.
For every huge technology enhanced “Avatar” movie, there’s a “Revenant” that has a colossally long scene driven by sheer force of collective human will.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:05 pm to StringedInstruments
The push to return to folk music played by a community within the farming town will be great.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:05 pm to StringedInstruments
If this is what the average person thinks AI is heading based on today's uses, no wonder we have such a massive bubble.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:06 pm to UltimaParadox
In the context of demolition man, I’ll happily live in sewers and eat rat burgers.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:12 pm to Breesus
I’d take real live actual music 100/100 times over processed AI garbage.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:18 pm to StringedInstruments
One of the things that makes life so damn sweet is periodically running across these magical, amazing moments, organically. If you think society is soft now, just wait until most people are on the teet of this carefully crafted, yet artificial existence.
In OP’s posted scenarios, how far is the leap to a Matrix-like world, really?
In OP’s posted scenarios, how far is the leap to a Matrix-like world, really?
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:26 pm to N2cars
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Why would I go to a venue to see AI?
why would you go see a cover band? Or watch a movie with CGI and special effects?
I'm not going all in on a totally fake and manufactured world like OP is presenting, but I also think the concept of "why would I do [something] that isn't 10000000% completely and utterly all real life human production with zero help or aid from computers or technology in any way at all?" is also a bit out there.
Would I currently right now want to go to a venue and watch some hologram? frick no. But in some futuristic scenario if we lived in some kind of advanced world where I could somehow "be" in the audience at a 1973 pink floyd concert? I mean...shite yes sign me up for that. I've seen Pink floyd cover bands that were practically note for note perfect and had an absolute blast. If I could level that up to see the next best thing to actually having been there in real time, then sure why not?
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:32 pm to StringedInstruments
What's the point of our existence if we can't profit by our mistakes?
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:53 pm to StringedInstruments
It would probably be like all the shitty autotuned music we only hear now.
The problem with humans and life is it's not perfect. Didn't you watch the Matrix? We reject perfection. Autotune doesn't sound beautiful to us because beauty is in the small 'mistakes' which make something original.
While I think AI could do more than just spy on us and become an easy way to detect exactly who did what and when for the govt, it's very overrated at the moment. I've yet to find a real way for it to be useful or time saving in my own life and I've tried a lot only to be underwhelmed.
I guess the same could be asked back when instruments were starting to be produced by machines if people would tolerate a violin created by a saw or even without any wood whatsoever. For most yes. But the hand crafted one will always command the most money and desire because it's just worth it.
The problem with humans and life is it's not perfect. Didn't you watch the Matrix? We reject perfection. Autotune doesn't sound beautiful to us because beauty is in the small 'mistakes' which make something original.
While I think AI could do more than just spy on us and become an easy way to detect exactly who did what and when for the govt, it's very overrated at the moment. I've yet to find a real way for it to be useful or time saving in my own life and I've tried a lot only to be underwhelmed.
I guess the same could be asked back when instruments were starting to be produced by machines if people would tolerate a violin created by a saw or even without any wood whatsoever. For most yes. But the hand crafted one will always command the most money and desire because it's just worth it.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:05 pm to GeauxldMember
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In OP’s posted scenarios, how far is the leap to a Matrix-like world, really?
One small meta glasses for man. One giant neural link for mankind.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:20 pm to WG_Dawg
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Would I currently right now want to go to a venue and watch some hologram? frick no. But in some futuristic scenario if we lived in some kind of advanced world where I could somehow "be" in the audience at a 1973 pink floyd concert?
Holographic performances is all that'll be left of the old epic band acts. But due to the insanely accelerated advancement of AI power nicreasing by the day, I can easily see a simulated 1973 Pink Floyd concert presentation being pulled off soon -- with nary a telltale difference between it and reality.
When that happens your biggest challenge might just be the lack of ubiquitous wafting weed haze and memories, and noticing all your fellow Boomer grannies and grampas surrounding you instead of hot chicks.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:49 pm to StringedInstruments
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You’re at a concert for your favorite band (could be classic rock or pop or metal or whatever you like). The show is phenomenal. The light display is mesmerizing, drones move in sync with the music, and the sound is crystal clear. Not a bad seat in the house.
The band plays every note flawlessly. No missed cues, no pitch issues. The vocals are subtly tuned enhanced just enough without being obvious. The mix is perfect. It’s a sonic masterpiece.
But here's the twist: every element of what you just experienced was pre-planned, executed, or filtered through AI.
So breaking this down a bit:
quote:Sounds like there actually is a live band playing? Just to be clear on the scenario.
The band plays every note flawlessly.
quote:We already have this today. Tons of acts (especially at the top end) are using:
The band plays every note flawlessly. No missed cues, no pitch issues. The vocals are subtly tuned enhanced just enough without being obvious.
- Click tracks
- Backing tracks
- Live vocal tuning
..at shows today. Vocal tuning technology in particular has advanced to the point where even for live vocals, it can be extremely subtle and extremely effective. It takes a good vocalist to begin with to get those results, but the technology makes that “good” vocalist perfect without 99% of people knowing the difference.
quote:I actually do think lighting is one place AI can have a huge impact on the live production business. I think it’ll affect mid-level touring acts the most (acts that don’t necessarily have a dedicated lighting designer for every show) though.
The light display is mesmerizing, drones move in sync with the music
Drone shows are kind of a new thing, although I do wonder if that’s a fad that will get old quickly.
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and the sound is crystal clear. Not a bad seat in the house.
quote:This is where I think we reach fantasy territory. The issue of getting a mix to the point where there’s “not a bad seat in the house” isn’t a skill issue, it’s a physics problem. Unless/until we see some sort of revolution in loudspeaker technology (which hasn’t changed all that much in 50+ years), live sound will continue to be a game of compromises.
The mix is perfect.
quote:So back to my first question.. assuming there’s still a live band playing, what you’re describing isn’t all that different than top-end live productions today. If there’s not a live band playing, I would argue it’s not a live show. If it is a live show, I don’t think the usage of AI-assisted production to enhance the experience would affect my feelings very much one way or the other.
every element of what you just experienced was pre-planned, executed, or filtered through AI.
On the other hand I do think we might see proliferation of AI-assisted songwriting and studio production in the near future. The biggest hindrance here is the fact that as of right now, any AI-generated elements aren’t actually protected by copyright. It’s going to be very interesting to see how that impacts the process - particularly for top-40 pop radio artists. I think we aren’t very far from a sufficiently-trained AI being able to generate huge hits for mass consumption. But it’s a legal mess for studio executives (and recording artists) because of the potential copyright implications.
Of course the question is about the enjoyment/experience rather than the business model. I’m torn on this. I think that knowing a piece of music was AI-generated does indeed take away from the experience, even if it’s exquisite. However, I also think we will reach a point where nobody can tell the difference. And at that point.. who knows?
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:51 pm to StringedInstruments
You just described every pop concert for the past 30 years.
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