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How to Fix Wall Outlet Box That's Become Loose Without Demo'ing drywall near it?

Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:31 pm
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:31 pm
I have an outlet box (not the outlet) that has become loose. It's behind the tile in my kitchen, so I'd prefer to not have to remove tile and rip up drywall to secure the box to a stud. Is there any (safe) hack that will allow me to fix this without tearing out tile and drywall?
Posted by papasmurf1269
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:33 pm to
If it's a Bakelite box you take the receptacle out and put two screws into the stud through the box and that should secure it
Posted by QuietTiger
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:34 pm to
Is the box PVC? If so, screw it, the box not the job.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:34 pm to
You might be able to cut power, remove the outlet and get a nail/screw into the stud from the inside of the box. Pin it to the stud from the inside as opposed to trying to reset a nail on the outside in the slots provided. (If that makes sense)
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:35 pm to
Drill hole in it and squirt expanding foam behind it?
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:36 pm to

Push the existing box out and replace with an Old Work box.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:38 pm to
Thanks for the advice. What about something like this?

LINK



Put two shims behind it and fasten the box to those?
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 4:39 pm
Posted by QuietTiger
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:39 pm to
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Sao

Problem with that is the tile, if the tile is tight enough I'd just use long 6/32's and suck it back into the opening.
Posted by QuietTiger
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:41 pm to
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What about something like this?


So, is this already a remodel type install, you have to be clear.
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:42 pm to
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cut power


THIS should be repeated before anything else.
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:45 pm to
Put one screw in the top of the box, one in the bottom and it's secured to the 2x4 stud. Voila. You'll have to drill it diagonal but that doesn't matter.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:45 pm to
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So, is this already a remodel type install, you have to be clear.


I'm not sure what you mean. The outlet and box were installed years ago. It's just recently become lose.
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:46 pm to
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Put one screw in the top of the box, one in the bottom and it's secured to the 2x4 stud. Voila. You'll have to drill it diagonal but that doesn't matter.


I think I will just end up doing this.
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:49 pm to
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THIS should be repeated before anything else.


Meh. I got shocked a couple times this weekend and all it really does is piss you off. I didn't even bother turning off the power unless I was completely replacing the receptacle.

ETA:

You know what the tab with the screw at the top right and bottom left of the box are for, right?

This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 4:51 pm
Posted by QuietTiger
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:51 pm to
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I think I will just end up doing this.

Good boy, it's what I said early on. Not sure if the receptacle is a GFI or not, but for clearance sake it helps to screw in the high and low part of the box. If need be, hold the box in place with a needle nose.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:07 pm to
I sure don't. Enlighten me please.
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:13 pm to
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I sure don't. Enlighten me please.


They are used to secure the box to your interior sheathing (typically drywall). When you turn the screw clockwise the tab turns to the upright position and the more you turn the smaller the gap from the box to the tab gets. It doesn't make the box as secure as nailing to a stud but it might work enough.



Posted by BHM
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:20 pm to
Below is a link to a video showing how the tabs work. Your hole is already there but it shows how the box works.


Old Works Box

This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 5:22 pm
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:22 pm to
Just to make it clear, you know there is a 2x4 stud on one side or the other of the box right? Those boxes are on a stud 99% of the time. So just figure out which side the stud is on, and as said put some screws or something to secure it back into place.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 5:30 pm to
Yep. Thanks for the input everyone!
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