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re: How the F do people still watch Joel Osteen?

Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:27 am to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:27 am to
Osteen is a piece of shite who I probably wouldn't make much of an effort to hit the brakes for if he was crossing the road in front of me. But, I have some respect for him being able to so efficiently fleece the sheep. As my Pops used to say, "The sheep must be fleeced." Joel fleeces them better than anyone, and he's managed to stay out of jail this long.

That said, if he were starving to death and I had a dollar to spare, I wouldn't buy a hotdog to keep him alive. Nothing personal, just bidness.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65496 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:27 am to
Joel Osteen >>> Eddie Long

Houston +1
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:32 am to
These two with their constant commercials during Astros games really irritate me.

Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38490 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:32 am to
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Because it is.

We also have people on here who believe everything they read on the internet is true.



Good point. That's why I only believe things in books.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9338 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:32 am to
People still believe in Trump, just like they believed in Hitler. People are stupid baw.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53885 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:33 am to
That dude really needs some hair on some part of his head/face, he's really creeping me out. Like a pecker smiling at me. I don't trust him.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81598 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:34 am to
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People like him are killing any ideas that non-believers with any intelligence would have about becoming Christians. He’s a disgrace.


I challenge you or anybody hating on him to expound on this. You won’t.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:35 am to
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I challenge you or anybody hating on him to expound on this. You won’t.



They hate him because he's so naturally handsome.

Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:35 am to
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But, I have some respect for him being able to so efficiently fleece the sheep. As my Pops used to say, "The sheep must be fleeced." Joel fleeces them better than anyone, and he's managed to stay out of jail this long.


I don’t understand how he “fleeces” people more than any other successful pastor. I actually see him soliciting offerings far less than any other church leader I’ve ever seen. He sells books and has tv revenue.

I went to a neighbors baptist church a month ago at their request and they were FAR more solicitous than Joel Osteen. They mentioned fundraising for their new church a half dozen times, had a donation thermometer up during the service, had it as a poster near the coffee, and had 2.5 different offering call outs.
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 11:37 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:37 am to
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I love that he rustles people so much. Like people are fine with the catholics and Baptist lovin on kids, but Ole Joel is an a-hole because he rich.



The problem with Joel and the rest of the crowd is they’re missing out on telling people the truth, and that is preaching the Bible, then comes belief, then OUR repentance and then sanctification through a walk with God.

If you’re always feeling good in church, and there’s no discomfort, then you’re missing out. Scripture makes us feel uncomfortable at times, and the Holy Spirit convicts, but if everything revolves around some feel good nonsense then we are missing out on Christ’s miracles in our lives, the greatest of all miracles being forgiveness and restoration to Him.

I never hear repent messages, and yet that’s all Christ said to people, was repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand. John the Baptist, same message. Paul, same message, Peter, same message. Where is the repentance? That’s the biggest issue I have with the Joel Olsteens of this world.




Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20098 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:39 am to
Praise His name, He will give you strength to overcome your doubts
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:39 am to
Agree that’s part of it. It’s the same reason white guys hate on handsome successful white athletes like Tom Brady and JJ Redick. I think it’s engrained in our culture in order to weaken it.

You rarely see other races hating on sports stars of their own race
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 11:40 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53885 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:40 am to
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I don’t understand how he “fleeces” people more than any other successful pastor.

You're working under the misunderstanding that I'm a fan or supporter of any "successful preacher". If you're literally selling salvation and making a fortune off of it, I pretty much think you're a shite human being. From Joel to the Pope to anyone who says they'll come save souls for a hefty speaking fee, I believe they're nothing more than religious grifters. Stop writing the checks and see how many souls they're willing to save.

That said, part of me respects the hell out of the grift.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113940 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:41 am to
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People still watch the Jan 6 hearings, baw. You can get people to watch anything with enough fanfare and advertising


What?

Obviously you rather be kept in the blind and deny what your leader did.

Osteen and Trump have a lot in common. Both have charisma and can't get people to believe anything they want their people to believe.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53772 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:42 am to
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I challenge you or anybody hating on him to expound on this. You won’t.


Jesus repeatedly encourages people to deny themselves (including riches) and follow him. There are multiple references to this in the New Testament.

Mark 10:17-23 is just one example:

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The Rich Young Ruler

17 (A)As He was setting out on a journey, a man ran up to Him and (B)knelt before Him, and asked Him, “Good Teacher, what shall I do so that I may (C)inherit eternal life?” 18 But Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘(D)Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not give false testimony, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’” 20 And he said to Him, “Teacher, I have kept (E)all these things from my youth.” 21 Looking at him, Jesus showed love to him and said to him, “One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have (F)treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” 22 But he [a]was deeply dismayed by [b]these words, and he went away grieving; for he was one who owned much property. 23 And Jesus, looking around, *said to His disciples, “(G)How hard it will be for those who are wealthy to enter the kingdom of God!”


Do you need more?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:43 am to
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SirWinston


Zero surprise you'd be a supporter of this hack.

Doesn't really match your shitty fake British personae though.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81598 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:44 am to
Prosperity gospel has a good deal of Biblical backing. Trump himself grew up going to Norman Vincent Peale’s church and was married by NVP.

How NVP shaped a young DJT to believe in himself

“The Game of Life and How to Play It”, “How to Make Friends and Influence People”, anything by NVP, and Joel Osteen all preach positivity and karma. The hate Osteen gets on this board is ridiculous. He’s simply the best messenger of this sliver of Christianity.
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 11:45 am
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113940 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:44 am to
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You rarely see other races hating on sports stars of their own race



What?

You know how I know you are not around a lot of people from other races?
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27328 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:45 am to
Televangelists are not Christians or preachers. They are grifters. frick him, Swaggart, and the rest of the phonies.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
81598 posts
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:46 am to
So you are ripping on Osteen because you believe in left wing hippie Jesus like all the Portland liberals going to their “ALL REFUGEES WELCOME” bannered church?

If that’s your complaint than I like Osteen more than ever. And you still didn’t use an example of Osteen in your rebuke.
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