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re: How should I handle this academic integrity issue at LSU?

Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by m1q32
Member since Feb 2010
144 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:09 pm to
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Seems like agreeing to meet with the honors committee and taking their stupid course is some kind of tacit admission of guilt. I would have argued that I have the right to change an answer until I hand the test in. Were you scoping other students' papers on the way up the aisle or just walking smartly?


Meeting with them shouldn't be an admission. At my last school, a student would meet with the office of student conduct if there was an academic misconduct issue. At the meeting, the school employee would inform a student of what they were being accused of and their options. Usually an option to admit guilt or request a hearing if the student wanted to fight it. This meeting could just be to explain what is going on and give the OP his options.
Posted by darnell
Member since Oct 2015
54 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:11 pm to
People need help sometimes. Helping hand isn't cheating.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:15 pm to
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People need help sometimes. Helping hand isn't cheating.



There is a difference between a 'helping hand' and devaluing a degree.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18435 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:17 pm to
Wait so you only erased, but didn't write anything new? I'd explain that at the meeting too.
Posted by darnell
Member since Oct 2015
54 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:20 pm to
Man you do what you need to do to get the best grade and don't worry a bout rules.
Posted by m1q32
Member since Feb 2010
144 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:21 pm to
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Be honest


I highly recommend being honest with them. Most honor codes state that you have to be honest with these inquiries. If they catch you lying about it, there is a chance that they will add that to the list of charges. I've seen it happen.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:25 pm to
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Man you do what you need to do to get the best grade and don't worry a bout rules.


Drop out now.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
21108 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:43 pm to
Why should it matter if he erased something incorrect or added something correct? There is no difference. Changing a test after time is called gives you an unfair advantage over everyone else that follows the rules. It's not that hard to understand...
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32988 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:44 pm to
You took my tongue in cheek response way too seriously
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9795 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 5:54 pm to
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One of my biggest fears when working on group or collaborative projects. I've met too many lazy a-holes who will just straight up steal or plagiarize info. You really can't trust anyone when it comes to this stuff. The last thing I want is to put my name on anything and find out the hard way a group member plagiarized others work. I'm actually working on a project now that another member of the group and I have decided to work on separately from our group. We don't trust where they are getting info and question how seriously they are actually taking the project.


I didn't so much mind the violation. It was handled poorly on her part. This was not a freshman/sophomore level class with 300 students. This was a 4000 level course with only about 15 students. Every student in that class had taken the prerequisite course taught by the same instructor the previous semester.

She said she did that because she didn't know who cop ied who. She knew that I put a lot of effort into my work, and she knew that the person I worked with turned less work that was less than complete. If she wants to call us both in her office and we have a discussion that's fine, but she just wrote "Honor Code Violation" on the assign's grade slot on the class web site and went about her usual business.
Posted by m1q32
Member since Feb 2010
144 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:01 pm to
Sorry. Had to explain this to a student several times last week, and I just auto piloted the response.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:02 pm to
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Seems like agreeing to meet with the honors committee and taking their stupid course is some kind of tacit admission of guilt. I would have argued that I have the right to change an answer until I hand the test in. Were you scoping other students' papers on the way up the aisle or just walking smartly?



Would be a terrible argument since every test is supposed to end after the allotted time. Unless of course the teacher is feeling generous and allows it.

shite on standardized tests if you try and answer or change a question after the time is up they will simply throw your test in the trash and make you leave.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:07 pm to
I would ask them why the frick they feel the need to rush the class with time limits. Do they want it right and to educate people, or do they want rushed tests with lower grades. Tell them that kind of thinking is what caused the Deepwater Horizon catastrophe. Then just sit back and watch their reaction
Posted by Libertariantiger
Member since Nov 2012
981 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:25 pm to
You have to ask yourself, what would Tom Brady do? Frame the TA for some misgivings and have him apologize to you.
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 6:28 pm to
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Would be a terrible argument since every test is supposed to end after the allotted time. Unless of course the teacher is feeling generous and allows it. shite on standardized tests if you try and answer or change a question after the time is up they will simply throw your test in the trash and make you leave.


Well I guess I had a different experience and it's been a long time since I tested under formal conditions.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 7:11 pm to
If you'd spent more time studying before the exam maybe you wouldn't have been rushed for time trying to figure out the answers during it?
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29805 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 7:15 pm to
Life lesson. Take the 70 because you've earned it and you know it.

Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 7:16 pm to
That TA sounds like a little bitch.

Comply with what they want you do, but admit nothing.
Posted by m1q32
Member since Feb 2010
144 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 7:17 pm to
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You have to ask yourself, what would Tom Brady do?


How will smashing his cell phone help?
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
66307 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 7:22 pm to
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Be honest but warry.
"warry" = worry + wary?
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