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re: How much longer can local hospitals go before major layoffs take place?

Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by Jack_Handy
Sweet Home
Member since Apr 2020
109 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:24 pm to
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That was my whole point. People saying, "Oh my god, they told us hospitals were overwhelmed but they are actually empty. The lies!! " are making a completlely ignorant statement. Hospitals can be empty, for the reasons I listed, but still be overwhelmed. I would say this was the case in plenty enough hospitals for it to be reported.


Busy does not always equal “overwhelmed”. For example, in Alabama, Covid patients are currently using only 3.3% of available hospital bed capacity. ICU stats are not as readily available, but likely similar. The media portrayed an image of ICU and ventilator shortages, rationing of care, etc. That just simply isn’t happening at most hospitals. I know you aren’t necessarily arguing that it is, but some are.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61442 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:24 pm to
We’ve had furloughs for 3 weeks now.
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
3195 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:26 pm to
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If hospitals were doing their job instead of laundering money for college boosters they would have their finances figured out.


Too many administrators getting paid 6 figure salaries as well.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:29 pm to
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ICU stats are not as readily available, but likely similar


I doubt this one bit. Maybe in some areas, but I'd say the majority of hospitals are using more than 3.3% of ICU beds available.

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Covid patients are currently using only 3.3% of available hospital bed capacity


Yeah, but that number doesn't paint a true picture. Sure, maybe 3.3% of the beds are occupied by Covid patients, but it doesn't mean 97% of the beds are available to handle Covid patients. Some of them, sure, for patients who don't need ICU type treatment but still hospitalization. Most of those 97% of beds aren't fit to handle ICU type patients.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22394 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:34 pm to
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I doubt this one bit. Maybe in some areas, but I'd say the majority of hospitals are using more than 3.3% of ICU beds available.


My county has 1 big hospital and 3 or 4 smaller ones that I can think of, maybe 2 or 3 more honestly not sure about ICU beds. And we have 17 total hosptilizations.

So I don't think that's far off honestly.
Posted by Jack_Handy
Sweet Home
Member since Apr 2020
109 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:36 pm to
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I doubt this one bit. Maybe in some areas, but I'd say the majority of hospitals are using more than 3.3% of ICU beds available.


First, I didn't say that hospitals are only using 3.3% of ICU beds - I am referring to percentages of beds occupied by Covid patients. Secondly, you seem to criticize everyone for "making up numbers" and want links. I showed you a link that even NYC was never above stated hospital bed or ICU capacity. Perhaps you should provide links showing evidence of hospitals that are "overwhelmed" and short of ICU beds or hospital beds for care of Covid patients since you seem to be aware of their existence and prevalence.
Posted by bleeng
The Woodlands
Member since Apr 2013
4222 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:40 pm to
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Houston Methodist


GF's (no pics) imaging (MRI) department has already had their hours cut by 10%.
They had one customer Saturday...
They are preparing for more cuts or possibly layoffs/furloughs..
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22953 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 1:03 pm to
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So, they were never at this point?


Move the goalpoasts, eh?

The entire point was that there are almost no hospitals in the US overwhelmed right now. You still haven't linked any of these hosipitals that don't have any beds or ventilators CURRENTLY (as I said at least twice before). This is a situation that is very rare among US hospitals now.
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