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re: How impactful can negatives be as part of a routine workout?
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:41 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:41 am to Chad504boy
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Trying to increase strength in bench, kind of hit a wall for a bit now
maybe you're just as large and strong as you can physically be
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Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:45 am to Chad504boy
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impactful
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:52 am to TheAlmightySmash
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maybe you're just as large and strong as you can physically be
unacceptable. I need to hit 315 before i die.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:54 am to LSUAlum2001
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Hit 225 21x 2 days ago on bench.
21 sets of 2 reps?
or 2 sets of 21 reps?
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:19 am to Chad504boy
I think you're reading this wrong...
21x probably equals 3sets of 7.
He did 21 total reps, 2 days ago.
I used common core to figure this out.
21x probably equals 3sets of 7.
He did 21 total reps, 2 days ago.
I used common core to figure this out.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:22 am to Chad504boy
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unacceptable. I need to hit 315 before i die.
do you think there is a physical cap though? excluding steroids obviously
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:24 am to TheAlmightySmash
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do you think there is a physical cap though? excluding steroids obviously
well certainly
mind over matter
why exclude roids?
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:26 am to Chad504boy
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why exclude roids?
something about my nuts shriveling up from excess testosterone and backne doesn't sound fun.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:33 am to Chad504boy
1 set of 21 reps. Failed on 22.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:37 am to LSUAlum2001
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1 set of 21 reps
dang, that's good. I remember i was so excited first time i got 10x's of 225. Probably would take all i got to get to 10-12 ish if i was max repping one day.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:42 am to Chad504boy
However, my 1RM is only 325 or so.
I've always been able to do lower weight at higher reps (which gives me some crazy 1RM calc of 385 or so) but I've always struggled with max weight for low reps. It's probably a genetic muscle fiber thing.
I've always been able to do lower weight at higher reps (which gives me some crazy 1RM calc of 385 or so) but I've always struggled with max weight for low reps. It's probably a genetic muscle fiber thing.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:42 am to killercoconut
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Eccentric motions in general require more force production than concentric. Therefore it would make since you may see better outcomes in strength by including an eccentric component to your workout. However, this strength typically only applies to eccentric motions and doesn't translate to concentric gains.
That's ridiculous. If you need more muscle to do a negative biceps curl, your body will produce more tissue in the biceps muscles. So, you are saying that the newly produced muscle tissue will only work in one direction. Does that make "since" to you?
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Tell your local physical therapist to learn the physiology of muscles today!
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:45 am to LSUAlum2001
been trying to adjust a very bit my bench grip. I'm not a very tall person, like 5'10ish. I think i've had my grip a bit too narrow, trying to widen it just a little bit, maybe develop the chest muscle a bit more.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:48 am to Chad504boy
I widened my grip out to the outside not notches. I see a lot of lifters with extremely narrow grips which overloads the triceps and hardly hits the chest. If you want to maximize the lifted weight, you need to use both.
I've been told by powerlifters 2 things if you want to bench more: widen your grip and add weight (body weight).
I've been told by powerlifters 2 things if you want to bench more: widen your grip and add weight (body weight).
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:54 am to LSUAlum2001
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which gives me some crazy 1RM calc of 385 or so) but I've always struggled with max weight for low reps. It's probably a genetic muscle fiber thing
It's not that. Typically, 1RM fails beyond 8 reps. That's why you're numbers are off. You have a better guesstimate of 1RM when using the 5-8rep range. It all has to do with the coefficient being used for the number of reps, from a math standpoint. From a physiological standpoint, it's ineffective.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:59 am to SomethingLikeA
I can hit 285 for 8 reps which is ~360 using 1RM calcs, but that is still too high.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:02 pm to LSUAlum2001
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if you want to bench more add weight (body weight).
I think most people would rather be cut than bench more.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:49 pm to Chad504boy
Negatives, half rep bench and band/chain benches work wonders. Also, technique could easily add weight.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:53 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
When I hit 425 I did a combo of a heavy/power day and light/explosive lifts another.
I did negatives first, heavy close grip bench, half rep, and finished up on heavy dips.
Light day I did band bench press, dips for high rep, push ups. I mostly started from chest and exploded up on these sets
I did negatives first, heavy close grip bench, half rep, and finished up on heavy dips.
Light day I did band bench press, dips for high rep, push ups. I mostly started from chest and exploded up on these sets
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