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re: How hard is the bar exam?

Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29951 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:00 pm to
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105? Thats impressive af.


I used to type a lot more than I do these days, so while I can still hit strides and sprint up to about 115wpm for short periods, I’m probably more consistently between 95-100 at this point over any kind of length. Obviously still way faster than even the average professional, but I still feel that nagging loss, when you can just feel that you’ve lost a step
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
31821 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:00 pm to
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Curious. watching The Rainmaker.


I literally watched this last night.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:00 pm to
not very apparently

It is like a quiz on masonry rites - initiation to get in the club

not like it is a PE exam or CPA exam
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
63644 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:03 pm to
Guy in Catch Me If You Can studied and passed the Louisiana Bar after studying for a couple of weeks.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:03 pm to
Bar exams are antiquated af. Should also look at ditching some bar exam subjects like property if they insist on having a bar exam. It’s archaic.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5579 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:05 pm to
Cant be, I know a functioning idiot that passed the LA bar.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29951 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:08 pm to
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Bar exams are antiquated af. Should also look at ditching some bar exam subjects like property if they insist on having a bar exam. It’s archaic.


Agree, and (because this is literally the only context in which it matters or anyone gives a shite), I passed on my first try.
Posted by Crazytrain69
Gonzales, LA
Member since Mar 2020
109 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:13 pm to
Speaking of exams how hard is the cpa exam?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38552 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:16 pm to
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Agree, and (because this is literally the only context in which it matters or anyone gives a shite), I passed on my first try.



I agree that the bar exam is a terrible measure of if someone is fit to practice law.

Not sure what the solution is. Set something up like MDs where you "practice" under supervision for a long enough period of time? Reciprocity would have to be reworked.
Posted by brokelikeajoke
Member since Jan 2019
231 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:17 pm to
not hard.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 9:28 am
Posted by transcend
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2013
4166 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:27 pm to
Have you met lawyers? Need I say more?
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
36231 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:29 pm to
Back then not so hard because of conditional passing. But now it’s fricking brutal.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29951 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:31 pm to
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The typical slap on the wrist reply I get from my own counsel is "stop doing my job for me."


I don’t dance; you don’t talk.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48625 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:37 pm to
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Yep. Even a decade ago, the number of handwriters were vanishingly small

Ohhh. I was married to ex1 from start to finish of LSU Law School and often grasped her course concepts much more comprehensively than she did. But she was an excellent student and damned near professional level writer. More than Once, and after her bar exam, I told her if I could type instead of hand write exam answers, I woulda whooped her arse in LSU law school. She didn't like that one bit. Ah well. I'm kinda special kinda genius.

But I can't fill 4 pages of loose leaf writing "I wanna be a lawyer long time" in their allotted time.
My hand gets tired filling out Urgent care clinic forms for my kids' flu test.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28504 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:38 pm to
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I agree that the bar exam is a terrible measure of if someone is fit to practice law.

Not sure what the solution is. Set something up like MDs where you "practice" under supervision for a long enough period of time? Reciprocity would have to be reworked.


Some firms do a good job of mentoring some throw you in the deep end. I did my first criminal trial the day after I got my Rule 403 form approved.

In SC before you can not appear in a trial, hearing or deposition you have to view a certain number and types of trials/hearings and file the forms signed by the presiding judge etc with the Supreme Court.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 10:49 pm
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9143 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:40 pm to
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To answer your question....for most business leaders/ceos, scientists, professional/terminal degrees, the bar exam is a joke and most run of the mill lawyers are basically historians.


Possibly the most out-of-touch post on the OT today.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 10:41 pm
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:51 pm to
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99% of the time I don't need them and can afford to and have the cognitive resources to simply look up case-law.

You are a lawyer's favorite type of person in the world.

Let all your friends know that you've figured it all out, and how to handle those legal types of situations.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:52 pm to
It's more annoying than hard.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48625 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:57 pm to
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Some firms do a good job of mentoring some throw you in the deep end. I did my first criminal trial the day after I got my Rule 403 form approved.

That's the same in many professions. Some Software companies throw new hires to the wolves and keep the survivors.
Others have an entire dev training program for new hires.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28504 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:58 pm to
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You are a lawyer's favorite type of person in the world.

Let all your friends know that you've figured it all out, and how to handle those legal types of situations.


They are what the attorney I clerked for called "DumbSmarts". "They see a fire and think they have an extinguisher when what they really have a five-gallon bucket of gas".
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