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How hard is it really to get a professorship at a regional State School?

Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:05 am
Posted by Wes B
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:05 am
How hard is it to get a professorship at, say, the political science department at a small regional school like McNeese or UL?

That seems like the kind of department you could bring years of practical experience in the practice of law to and be a great resource for a university.

Great way to live out your days, just reading, writing and teaching.

How many aspiring professors are on the OT this morning?
Posted by Mung
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:07 am to
they like adjuncts these days. small salary, no benefits, no tenure, terminate at will. given the state of the profession, prolly a lot of interest in a side gig.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:07 am to
If you get legit answers to this question, let me know. I'm in.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:07 am to
quote:

How many aspiring professors are on the OT this morning?

I've often thought that would be a cool retirement gig, and not for completely altruistic reasons.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:09 am to
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small regional school
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UL


I see where this is going.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:12 am to
One of my classmates in grad school became a department head at UL shortly after graduating. He probably had about 10-12 years of pratical experience at that point. I wouldn't mind taking that route later if life, if the opportunity presents itself.

Not in political science though, but rather a field that is currently going through a massive shift and is lacking qualified individuals with a wealth of experience/education in the new technology.
This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 9:13 am
Posted by gptigerfan
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:13 am to
I would hardly call the university of Louisville a small regional school
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:15 am to
Very difficult for a tenure track position, especially in political science. Even at a non-R1 school where the research burden isn't that high like those you listed, it's very competitive. Most tenure track polisci openings are getting upwards of 100 applicants. At a non-R1 school that is still probably like 50.

Adjunct positions are much easier to come by because they pay you pennies and there is no long term commitment from the school. Many schools are going this direction, even top tier schools.

Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:18 am to
You can't get one.
Posted by titmouse
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:19 am to
Do you have any substantive teaching experience?

What and when have you published?

Without significant experience in those areas you've got an uphill battle.

You need to adjunct first if you have no experience.
Posted by CuseTiger
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:20 am to
Do you have a PhD?
Posted by Minnesota Tiger
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:30 am to
A later in career-change applicant may be out of date on disciplinary knowledge.
Depending on the field, these spots can be highly competitive.
Posted by Smalls
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:33 am to
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Adjunct positions


quote:

Many schools are going this direction, even top tier schools.



In theory, shouldn't this devalue your education/diploma?
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:35 am to
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What and when have you published?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:39 am to
You're probably too stupid to be a professor. I don't know that you are, I'm just sayin.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43342 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:39 am to
It's hard to get professor positions anywhere. Even for small schools like McNeese, they are going to have over 100 applications for a single position.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43342 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 9:44 am to
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How hard is it to get a professorship at, say, the political science department at a small regional school like McNeese or UL?


And on another note, please realize that ULL's enrollment is 17,000. It's the 2nd largest school in the state.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12809 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 10:06 am to
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How many aspiring professors are on the OT this morning?



I used to be, and still think about it from time to time.

My goal coming out of college was to get a PhD in American (or contemporary European) history and teach at a state school, but it wasn't in the cards. I got my Masters in something else, went to work in corporate America and the rest is history (no pun intended).

I do think, however, that the tenured professorship is slowly going away. Like someone said, a lot of schools are shifting to the adjunct structure, which equates to lower salaries and at-will employment. Also, a PhD is freaking hard to get, extremely time consuming, and it takes years to get a tenure-track position.
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/2/15 at 10:37 am to
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they like adjuncts these days. small salary, no benefits, no tenure, terminate at will. given the state of the profession, prolly a lot of interest in a side gig.


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Posted on 7/2/15 at 10:39 am to
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